The fact that you have to wait 3 days after spending real money on steam just to get the gold you paid for is why I will never spend money on this game again

I mean seeing all the things that they have implemented, I dont think they have any ideas how to run a game

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The worst thing you can remove from a player is the ability to impulse buy.

Yeah they basically killed their own game with this but then again Amazon has never had a clue about video games.

Imagine if Valve has published this game instead?

Amazon publishing this game in the west is like that nightmare scenario in Man in the High Castle
It’s something you really don’t want to think about but here we are…

The problem is something likely had to be put in place, but they went about it (as they seem to be doing for most things) with the least amount of effort.

Now, AGS does not have any developers that work on LA, so it comes down to SG to implement any in-game changes, such as coding in those roster/ilvl/playtime/etc restrictions. I would honestly love to know the inner communications between AGS and SG, I have a sense they aren’t good.

Imagine some kid now graduated claiming he knows Korean well, Amazon says wooo he is from ivy league let’s hire him he knows what he is doing but we will also pay him minimum wage.
SG be like yeah ok so implement this idea be sure not to censor anything and also be sure not to scam people their hard earned money and set them up thinking they can buy gold only to find out they have a 3 day wait and now their item is gone and they are out of money and useless gold.

The kid be like yeah SG says to censor all this stuff and be sure to have a 3 day wait, trust me bros I have a degree in Korean communications. So Amazon to SG be like ok we want you to do this and that as we have consulted with a “professional consultant fluent in Korean” on this matter.

AGS be like see, told you we get the same quality for $15 an hour, anyone can learn Korean in a few days it so easy, what could go wrong.

Agent Ivy League !

You are overthinking it tho. SG most likely are saying do whatever you want just leave us alone as much as possible we’re working on the KR version our developers are busy.

And when you have a player base that complain about how terrible things are, but at the same time continue to dump money into the game what incentive does either party have to change what they are doing lol.

SG is reselling you old content that they’ve already developed and sold multiple times before.

It’s costing them nothing to exist here and slow drip the game out to us. We’re just free money. If they lose 20% to G2G, 20% to Amazon’s Cut, 20% to players not willing to spend due to bad ideas they are still taking in 40% pure profit for simply existing.

And worse case when it all finally collapses in on itself, they can blame AGS and say they will re-release in NA/EU a year down the road with a new publisher and a promise they’ll have all these issues resolved first. The saddest part is people would return and stuff them with money all over again :rofl:

People have said this again and again but AGS turns a blind eye to it. After the 20 item AH and market limit, people already suggested that. They never went back to change the old restrictions to be roster based or even bother to test it.

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It was a very smart way for AGS to discourage us from spending money on their game.

G2g is cheaper and faster

lmao that’s a ban for sure.

They will know, eventually you traded with a bot and when the bot gets banned everyone who traded with said bot also gets banned.

I am sure they also have a system in place that flags your account when they see a random stranger just donates you over a million gold out of the blue

This is why you see so many people claiming they got banned for cheating, they don’t just consider 3rd party software cheating.

You don’t need to stop buying gold to solve that problem.

yep it was lazy of them to implement it and its just annoying to find out, unfortunately i spent money because i just wanted a skin thinking this wasnt a thing because i had quite a long break and was hit with it being withheld :))) very cool

I agree, if you acc is verified at least you should be able to use it right away at the AH. If its first purchase I can understand somehow but still if spend money in the game then it should available fully from the get go.

I’m sure the company that imposes “trade holds” lasting up to 15 days are gonna give a crap about a 3 day hold in a game published on their platform… Let’s be realistic.

and the 72 hours hold is certainly not arbitrary… this is from Microtransactions (In-Game Purchases) (Steamworks Documentation)

*Catching fraudulent transactions before they can impact the economy is important.

  • Steam catches most fraudulent transactions within 48 hours of the initial purchase. Call the GetReport() API at least once each day to reconcile changes to transactions according to their updated status.

  • You should prevent trading or gifting of the newly purchased items for at least 72 hours from the time of purchase. This will not impact the majority of your players since most players will use funds and items purchased for themselves while fraudsters must move their fraudulent goods to profit.*

So let’s not pretend that Valve “doesn’t know”, they’re probably the ones who gave AGS the idea in the first place and AGS is just following their recommendations.

Wait I already have to do this with my bank, verify on the app and sms code.
But then why can’t I get my gold early

You gonna have to ask AGS for that XD

Why flagged? most logical comment here

how?
please dont talk about things you dont really know :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Social engineering, the “I forgot my X” feature or numerous other ways. Your above suggestion about “using the banking app” invalidates the convenience of services like paypal too.

Please don’t talk about things you don’t really understand.

Taking your stuff not being worth the risk/hassle does not mean it’s “safe”.

what it would give them in case where you need to get SMS code to log in?
they would have to call each time to US from wherever they are and use “sociall enginering” to just access game :wink:
if it would be even posiblle to do something more than change phone number this way :slight_smile:
phone number that have unique Country code prefix required to be properly used :wink:

could you quote me on that? im pretty sure you are talking about someone else comment that i havent even seen
although other publishers use tokens and sms verification without hassle
it dont have to be on each login, could just trigger on new device and more often on suspicious accounts

how they could reliably bypas mobile authentication on big scale?
i can tell you already that spoofing wont work and im 90% sure that he was been thinking about :wink:

we are talking about thousands of accounts managed by rather small group of ppls
so yea technically its posible like cloning someones sim card, but its not that easy and you would want to target specyfic person with specyfic amount of moneys to use those methods :slight_smile:

you could do much more intresting things with that kind of access than boting a game :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

well if its not safe you should contact banks asap cause they use those methods with success for years now