tldr
I still laugh at the idea of LA being P2W (You got to do a raid 3 weeks before me, congratulations you win
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But to address your other point - LA and Smilegate made no intention to hide what they were offering, itâs a Korean Grindfest, it was always labelled as such and nobody said it would be anything else so it baffles me how you can take offence at the fact that LA was allowed into the western market via a western publisher.
If AGS hadnât taken it, another publisher would have. Who are you even angry at here?
Not true. To be stuck before T3 is very real and ilvl 600 is one of the walls.
We are a group of friends and play together doing the same content, but some of us got very unlucky with the honing and couldnât pass. There are no more islands or content to be done except for the dailies. No matter how much you farm those it takes ages and itâs never enough. The only way out of it is to either wait 4-5 days, but at that point, the rest are way ahead, or to invest money.
We had to pay our way out of it and I think this wall was done on purpose.
This is an excellent post and here is my +1. You have summed up my feelings about the game after having done even a small amount of research on the changes Amazon has made. It really feels like AGS wants to grab the money and run.
+1 the honing rates is horible t3 (1370) is where the fun start but you canât just get there casually lol. People in KR saying they have learned the t3 raids for at least 12-18 hours imagine whales playing with those new t3 (1370) players doing those raid = bad playing experience it is a bad start and itâs gonna keep coming down less than 5% of the player is at t3 once they experienced the toxicity waiting for lack of practice and stuff.
100% agree
That was a nice feedback. I would like to compleate it with my case. I have a very bad experience with the support team.
I was a platinum founder and I started to play in Central EU lost ark. But because of your points (1 to 5) our friends and I decided to leave central and we moved to west EU. I didnât want to move (I reached char lvl 600 in central) but I had to.
I thought that I didnât got 2nd Founders pack and Celebration pack in west EU so I made a ticket 1 month ago (on february 24th). In the meantime (about 1 week ago) I realised that I claimed somehow (maybe with my other daily things) these 2 pack to Central Server because I founded them in my storage unopened. I found this late because I didnât play on Central anymore. I think I just claimed it like everything to check it later. So I made a mistake.
I contacted online support in this month in connection with my case about 5 times. They couldnât say even a deadline when they âsolveâ the problem. On march 24 I contacted the online support again in connection with my ticket, and they said they closed it 2 days ago, just forgot to send me a notification email!! So more than one month and I have to ask them to notifiy me that they couldnât do anything in my case. So the administartion in this simple case was more than 1 month and I had to ask âpls send me a closing email or somethingâ.
So I know it is my fault to claim these 2 packs accidently but It is good to know that the support has this kind of attitude. I have 2 founders pack and 1 celebration pack In a server that I had to leave because those things what you wrote and there is no way to transfer at least the unopened accidenly claimed things. And also no way to refund the founders pack. 100 Eur for nothing because technically I claimed it. It was a very expensive misclick. Maybe technicaly the support team has right but morally not.
Very nice explanation here.
Some issues were dissolved by players actually less playing the game and by any other things (server long waiting queues, matchmaking etc)
I think you could mention the last thing that I think some people are also worried about.
I should say SKINS and their (Amazon/Smilegate/Tripod studio - or how the devs are called) âCensorshipâ in the game because It makes us discourage and feel very bad experience, because game is stated to be for adults, (at least I thought It will be, because It could be nice to play something good and chill without imposing on players their vision of the game).
They are making black npcâs (who was white originally) I mean I donât think black people are bad of course, but they could add content and not update something that was good (The same I can say when someone is black and change to white. I hope you know what I mean :c).
They are censoring starting outfits, good skins and many more without explanation and the only response I found was like âwe didnât change anything at all, but we did change some skins butâŚâ (If you know what I mean).
They are making skins âless revealingâ and I think this is sad and funny joke, cuz we have 2022. Well, maybe do this game pure for kids and 13+ like fortnite ? I was hoping the game will be getting better, because half of its content which is not censored is really awesome and I like it and hope they will add all the skins from KR version without actually censoring it and they can do even more than that.
I really like the Korean fan made skin competition idea Itâs great (even Asmongold was recently streaming and told about it).
I know there are really bigger problems with game and everything right now and will be but think about it.
And making a page would be good for game too (KR version have page with this stuff) if you have this in plan or just let the players leave and close the game forever.
Here some links to see, what am I talking about:
To developers:
I hope you change your decision and stop censoring skins because itâs terrible. I really love the KR version of skins and I want to get them in EU servers (I hope Itâs possible).
More âwesternizingâ skins makes me more want to quit game and idk if I really want to play your censored version of LA and keep enjoying it. You can add skins from KR/can make new ones as well (not the censored versions to be understood) but add the KR too, because skins are one of the best parts of game.
Someone correct me if I said something wrong⌠<3 ![]()
If youâre still playing after all this , they won . The graph goes up . nothing else matters
at this rate playerbase will be 5 digits by end of april opposed to the 7 we started with and then we enter the snowball run when the queues get slow. Once you hit that point you wonât recover without a re-launch and even then, word of mouth will be brutal from the million or so players you lost, who will happily share the reason why they stopped playing and even if you fixed that reason it wonât matter because newcomers wonât want to take the risk. On the other hand if you can bankroll some major streamers to come play your game again for the re-launch, just maybe you can overcome word of mouth from regular customer. In fact, Right now I recommend that you do everything you can to keep streamers pumping your numbers, as long as you can retain at least one big name it wonât be fatal, but if they notice their view count dipping playing your game then itâs really over.
Gotta re-launch every MMO based on that logic.
there are many ways to have a launch effect. For example you can stagger your platform launches. pc launch, steam launch, console launch, etc etc. You can also stimulate the same effect with big anniversary events, and, to some extent, seasonal content can also have a similar effect to a launch as POE statistics have demonstrated. However itâs very difficult to change a first impression. Itâs why Archeage for example has flopped every time. Once youâre an outcast, thatâs the world you live in forever unless you have enough money to overcome your image problem.
But in the meantime, you need to train your population to expect something at a certain time every time so that they keep coming back. Even if they only log in just to buy the new costume you released as the only content of the week, youâre still making money and you still have their attention, and that is the real danger of releasing nothing patches on the weekly patch day. If you condition them to expect nothing, their attention moves on.
It doesnât have to be much. it just has to be something. anything. If amazon goofs this, there is a very real possibility that every subsequent attempt Smilegate makes to have this game in the west will fail just based on previous reputation. It can be severe, lasting damage to a brand to have a bad first impression.
Iâve just recently begun my journey so Iâm not sure if I have the right to talk about the matter at hand however as a player who appreciates fine art, fine writing and the effort made by game developers in games, I must say that I love Lost Ark, for the time being. What endgame players constantly comment about the state of the game really breaks my heart as this game has so much potential.
I had nothing but great memories so far and hereâs hoping Iâll have many more great memories here on out. Ever since WoW, this was the only game to come close to what I felt as I experienced the game. Also, the Diablo-istic nature of the game really helps me adapt to it too. Not to mention, the unique world design, lore and the creatures that reside in Lost Ark⌠Itâs like a diablo game that I can play daily, causally, if you know what I mean. And the atmosphere is so lively that I can play the game any time, at any mood. I donât even have to do progressive content to enjoy the game. I can just goof and wander around and have my fair share of fun for the day.
Hopefully, AGS will come to their senses and wonât further damage this beautiful game, as long as they listen to the community feedback.
Up to T2 the game is fine. Once you reach T3 youâll understand why most are quitting.
Great read. Thank you.
To be honest do not worry.
Smilegate does have games that work well in the west. Epic Seven (yes it is a gacha and not under Smilegate RPG but Smilegate megaport, but it is part of the Smilegate chain) is one of them.
Hello AGS⌠Roadmap when??? This is April and still no roadmap⌠not impressed
The journey to T3 was impressive hence i am creating and alt and not skipping any story to relive the experience but once you hit the infamous Deadzone 1340-1370⌠well if you care about vertical progression it hurts but horizontal progression does not affect much if you care about 100% completion map and collecting all island souls
Honestly, itâs just nice to actually see some constructive criticism instead of toxic flaming and venting.
This would have fix so many things but yet they listen to a âcouple streamersâ and ruined the experience for everyone else who is not a whale. (F2P players)
And for that mistake alone players are quitting the game like never before.
And for my surprise nothing is said in the roadmap.
Thank you for the great read.