The robot is back

nah they’re legit player numbers. they’re all excited for reaper release!

It’s not that easy to verify 100k accounts and ban AND prevent them to make new ones. There is no mmo that has fixed botting permanently. The best they can do is control the damage it does, which they have been doing at a mediocre level.

The best solutions would also demotivate newer players from joining the game, ie: bigger restrictions for newer accounts, maybe forced 2fa, or making the game paid.

At this point the devs have probably developed an intrigued taste for eating the feces of the botters after losing to them for over half a year and having to compete how much they can scoop and ingest before the game dies. It’s like giving your computer cancer by downloading enter_sandman(dot)exe from limewire and watching it have unsolicited coitus your computer while believing that a freemium version of some random chinese malware protection will magically fix things while refusing to do anything more to fix the problem

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It always take BotNation a day or two to get back up and running after a patch.

Most legit players are still VERY excited over the Sorc release …

they can’t get rid of bots. As other people have said, they create new accounts over and over, they are doing this 24/7. so they need to bring the in-game gold currency exchange to a point where it can compete with rmt prices so that amazon only has less rmt transactions. otherwise you can’t stop it. because they have a choice. While you buy 4 million gold for 600 dollars, you get 600k gold for 600k dollars. you win when you buy 4 million gold from 3 party sites and use this gold to strengthen your character before being banned and then get banned for a long time. you have nothing to lose. In other words, you get less gold by paying more dollars in in-game purchases. When you are unlucky, most of your money is wasted, or when you buy only 100% quality jewelry, your 500 dollar money goes to just one piece of jewelry and you realize that you can’t do much. You are just being scammed. Even if we question and criticize people over and over why they don’t give RMT, they will continue to exist and we should learn to live with them instead of criticizing them. and it is necessary to take advantage of the advantages offered by these bots in the game. I would not recommend anyone to rmt. Don’t take risks, but we can’t prevent those who want to do it.

Or not allow 24/7 unlimited account creation from unverified users.

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It’s 1 user making 1 account, not 1 user remaking accounts

They just script e-mail / steam account creation and fill excel with hundreds of thousands of throw away accounts.

Run an account for whatever predetermined amount of time the multi-boxers have determined is safe before the account is in the red and likely to be banned, mail the gold they generated and log off and onto a new account.

Likely there are millions of throw away accounts sitting and ready to replace anything you ban.

By the time a Bot is banned, it’s already sent it’s payload and is inactive.

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Without proof, you can say it isn’t 100k new players that arbitrarily became excited to try out the new reaper.

What you said is not easy. If it was easy they would have done it, they probably thought of what you’re talking about as something possible. but you can’t get rid of bots completely. The only way to get rid of this is because the currency exchange has reached a level that can compete with RMT prices. otherwise no one is willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for three cents of gold and so people spend less usd dollars taking advantage of the gold price offered by bots. compared to someone who spends legally, and it happens further. bots give players more spending power than companies offer. Isn’t that the important thing? When you spend 200 dollars legally, it’s important how much you can get in-game with that 200 dollars. that’s why every game has bots because everything bots offer attracts players and they prefer to spend their wallets on such people. believe or not

Yes they could have made their in-game prices more competitive as well, but haven’t touched them in the entire time the game’s been live.

They’d prefer losing sales entirely than losing revenue from an individual sale.

time to already give up and let players use bots when they cant play themselves. online will go through the roof. big numbers to brag. everyone happy as no need to rmt.

that’s right, they didn’t touch the bots, but they did touch the rmt players. Hundreds of players were banned, some of them permanent, some of them got away with light penalties, and some of them were sentenced to half a year. There was a loss of players, but the rate of rmt transactions is so high that even amazon can’t do anything because they have tools to detect and ban all rmt players at the same time, but if they use this, the player population drops from 55k to 30k. They ban real players at the expense of losing their income, they have no other choice. either currency exchange will become competitive or they have to legalize this sort of thing. Another way to get out of this is real money trades in every game. People turn to people who will get the best efficiency with their money. That’s all I will say.

They allow bots because they can’t completely get rid of bots, they just reduce their gold resources. Players have the freedom to rmt but I know most players get banned after a day or two because they bought a large amount of gold. unless they are lucky. In order for bots to leave this game, they need to see a sufficient decrease in the income they earn from the players, otherwise they say they will continue to stay in a game they made a profit, why should they leave. :slight_smile:

I think it’d be pretty easy to detect the horse centipedes. But they’d need a programmer to do it and apparently neither company has them. Said programmer could even keep detecting and banning whatever alternatives the botters come up with.

You clearly haven’t played enough botted games. Even League of Legends has a significant bot problem despite not having an in-game economy to exploit.

Developers are always fighting an uphill battle against botters because they can quickly adapt to the latest ban flags. Which is why bans happen in waves - otherwise botters can figure out what’s banning them on the fly.

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The games I play the most rarely have bots as their developers stay on top of it.

Ban waves don’t work with bots, it just gives a bot time to live out its short lifecycle and make enough money to fund the next bot. You can see it failing in Lost Ark as the bots are all running around with mokoko icons, grinding out gold to sell on the same day they were created. Ban waves were intended for cases where it would take a cheater a long time relative to the length of the wave to get back to where they were, but that’s not the case with bots here.

Bots are here because of the 238 RC ratio. Set it to 80 like RU and watch them disappear. You don’t need programmers to solve this, just a smart person which AGS lacks. They follow the American trend of banging your head against the window that doesn’t open when there is literally another window next to it that is open.

Besides, am not sure how we are supposed to get geared without bots. Most of the mats, books, tripods, gems, and accessories are from bots. If they are gone we will get a dry market.

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