Achievements for steam have been bugged since launch. Not very reliable.
most likely because of bots and people who tried the game during the first week and left agian.
these accounts will still count towards the achievements.
it is the same for many games, like dark souls 3, the easiest achievement which you can do within 2 mins of starting the game, only 93.4% have it.
Those are very inaccurate numbers. Even on single player games, those numbers fluctuate hard. Additionally, the percentages accounts for people who registered the game onto their account but hasn’t played it.
The most reliable source would be to check websites like Steam Hunter or Astats if you want more accurate numbers. Even then, those websites too can be inaccurate since it does not reflect the active player base and primarily made for achievement hunters. Achievements hunters tend to stop once a game gets overly grindy like Lost Ark and its honing.
Basically what I’m saying is that achievements shouldn’t be used to gauge a playerbase, especially the size of Lost Ark.
The numbers are based on every potential active player (and bots) that downloaded the game in order to play it. Did not get your point. Are you saying it is not accurate just because it counts everyone that has a character and does not play it anymore?
It shows low engagement. I mean, what for you defines someone active? I mean, use only active users metrics enforce that fluctuations are expected, since there is not a solid reference to determines what is an active user. If so, doesn’t matter much if the data source is accurate or not if the data source reflect all type of a player using metrics provided directly from the game, which is the case of Steam.
BTW, even if we consider only active users, it will be even more not accurate, since probably the most active users will be bots ![]()
The “active player base” point was made for those websites such as the one’s listed. These are specific communities who are one-off on games they have. Maybe “active” wasn’t the right word? I dunno, I suck at English.
Quoting myself to answer your question:
I highly doubt chronic achievement hunters would try to go for PVP achievements and that one achievement where you have to 100% all Adventurer’s Tome. Once they see those after playing the game, they probs decided to never touch it after realizing how taxing it is.
I don’t agree with using the steam metric system because of case-by-case scenario. People opening the game and never touching it, bots, and then there’s people like us who actually do the content. People who never done cube and chaos gate can hit tier 3. People who never done cube, but have done chaos gate can stay in tier 1. You can be 100% correct and it is bots that are responsible and there is low-engagement - I never disagreed with you there.
I know you’re probably thinking… “why is this person contradicting himself” but that’s just the nature of how these stats are.
well, i am pretty sure bots dont do Cube, or chaos gates and are not yet in the T3 (at least not in big numbers).
How many times does someone talk about steam achievements and we have to keep saying they arent real stats of the game
getting 302 = 20%
so 1 over 4 people at least t1 did cube… probably most of those who didnt simply left the game… we had 1m3 concurent player, we are now at peak 500k.
and it is not 800k people left, but far more… because we speak about CONCURENT PLAYER (not totall players) and even this way : from the 500k not all was there day1 or even not there during february at all and discovered game later…
Pretty legit, the 2 most significant times I wanted to quit are:
the first time i entered loghill and realized you can’t rebind G
T3 realizing all content is just a reskin of the same activities from now on
its not but unfortunately we keep pushing back all of our content then complaining about how theirs no content, so gg i guess to the west
The stats are real, it’s just that in a F2P game they aren’t meaningful because it’s a percentage of everyone who has installed the game that has achieved that achievement – which includes bot accounts, people who installed and played for a few hours or a day or two and uninstalled (happens a LOT with F2P games where anyone can just install it for free and give it a try), and so on. So it doesn’t reflect what the “actual playerbase” is doing when compared with something like, say, Elden Ring, which isn’t free and doesn’t have massive numbers of bots.
There’s just not any way to get accurate stats for the active playerbase of this game based on the Steam stats. It doesn’t mean that the Steam achievements are “bugged”. It means that because of the large number of bot accounts and other accounts that tried and left fairly quickly, the stats are not meaningful as a picture of the progress of the active playerbase through the game.
It also indicates just how big a problem bots are, but we knew that already anyway.
keep coping, amazon has already stated they arent realistic stats to follow in comparison to their own, you be safe
also hundreds of thousand of bots are in T1 so T3 players sound low in comparison
damn so much posts for a simple Answer already stated in the second post of this topic.
Steam Archievments are bugged. I have 100% of all Adventure Tomes but wasn’t able to do a Chaos Gate without dying according to my archievments for the Game.
Pls stop making Threads based on bs.
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Looks like that for you, achievements are important just when you reached them hahaha Sorry, but numbers are numbers. All other achievements are also important and reflect specific gameplay - Some related to personal choices, others because are bots.
Can you please share where AGS says that Steam numbers are not accurate?
the low percentages are only because we have more bot accounts than player accounts. Also tons of palyers just stopped playing after a few days, their accounts still exist and count towards it obv
That’s a valid point. Anyway, as bots, we’re also active. Anyway, that’s definitely a solid point.
Anyway, 95% of playerbase being bots or people that stopped due a few important and trivial achievements, concern me a lot
It was pretty funny to me as a completionist who noticed the “play this song 150 times for a title” for every song in the game so I decided to sit in my stronghold and spam them having around as much completion as the “complete platinum field for the first time” achievement.