So now you have to look into whether or not the people talked about it? And if they agreed to anything? What if they talked on an alt or at another time or in discord like guildies probably do and just completing the trade now?
If I send you a level 9 gem unsolicited can I get you banned that way? You seem to think that is super easy to replay and see every transaction that a person has and also be able to fully understand the context of why those trades are happening. Every layer you add more time which means you’re paying people to chase things that may end up in banning legit innocent players that have little to no recourse because you can’t believe anything they say.
As easy as letting player base know that if you receive a valuable item from someone that you don’t know, report it as soon as possible. If days go on after the player received and acquired the item, then just ban that rat because is clearly a RMT trade.
Do you check every mail you have in your mailbox to make sure that it is something you’re expecting? I sure don’t and I would willing to bet that most people don’t.
I just gave you a number of different scenarios that are going to create extremely grey areas that you’re asking a person with zero context to try and judge if people get banned or not. Simply because you think that trade MIGHT have had a real world component somewhere else you can’t see. I’m just pointing out just how difficult it is to know 100% sure that everything you see is actually RMT or not. Why are you assuming the people are not getting banned for RMT and that its simply not having the detterence effect you’d expect?
And does AGS need to publish this process for you to see in order for you to believe that any of it is happening or how will that happen? Because as I’ve said I’ve seen a lot of people getting banned for RMT over the last year.
Just like I’ve heard of several people in guilds who apparently got banned in this wave too.
Based on what everyone says in Forums, Discord, guilds, etc. The common understanding of the masses is that everyone is buying from golds with no consequences, perhaps the 1 week banned but he kept all his gold, I have heard those.
1 week ban? When did this happen? I heard of some 1 month and 2 month bans that seemed like light slaps, but never 1 week for RMT? And the ones I’ve heard of more recently were all perm bans. If you do GVG you hear about a lot more of the bans and things over the last year. Most of the guilds were the ones that had the gigachads in them that RMT’d.
Well, I do not take part in p2w activities that is for sure. While I hope that is true because I do hate illegal “smallppgigachads” the big problem now is that at the start AGS was afraid of banning the few who bought gold from bots, causing no consequences for it (when it was easier to track these few players), now that the majority do it, the problem is inflation. If a few gigachads buy everything at whatever price, who cares? the problem is when the average Timmy has money that he should have not, and we are stuck with book prices at 16k when Korea has it at half the price with more years generating gold and with more weekly gold income.
Having said that, if true and part of the reason of me creating this post. If it is true, then AGS tell us about it. Show us how many players have been banned, let the player base know about the consequences of breaking the rules in the game. Not all people behave with decency without consequences, me as an example I could be saying much worse things, but I have been temporally banned before from the forum, consequences are crucial.
No, because according to them, prices never reached our prices. We have a lot of players paying 20 usd dlls for 200k gold, which is more or less 4 weeks of gold generated by an account with at least 3 legion raids per character.
One major thing you have to remember that is different about this banwave of bots is that the new bots have to got through the Trusted process again. The accounts they just banned were all grandfathered in through the Trusted process so that legit players didn’t get affected. Now all their new accounts will need to go through it. We’ll see how well that works out now. I wondered why they would grandfather in all the bot accounts without doing a ban like this. Now we know that hopefully knew this was coming.
One big reason for this post is that. If it is true, then why AGS is not letting us know as they did with the bot ban wave. We need to know this so people start fearing to buy gold from bots because they can lose things (consequences)
That should always be in the equation if players do something illegal.
I don’t think AGS needs to remind players that. If you venture into the minds of a criminal everything they do is good or for their own good. Nothing will change if the exact players decided to make a new account and RMT again.
The only thing I hate is that AGS decided to ban them to the degree of bought gold. 100k per month… kinda awful punishment. Maybe they have other risk assessments they concluded
Exactly criminals don’t commit crimes unknowing of the potential consequences. In fact many know that once they’ve committed a crime once that there is little reason to fear because they already will get punished when they get caught. It’s always a matter of when they get caught and how long they can push that off. Few actually do it for limited period and then just stop forever. It’s either extremely lucrative and they’ll do it as long as that lasts or its out of necessity in which case the consequences are just a cost of doing business.
Well since everyone is saying that more than half of players are buying gold from bots, I believe is necessary for AGS to let us know about the consequences that they have implemented. Is like saying, we know AGS is against bots, they don’t need to tell us that they banned wave them, yet they did tell us.
