Also what prevents an RMT from just buying legit T3 gems off the AH and mailing to to transfer gold? Not unusual prices, just convert the gold into a T3 gem, mail gem, the person sells it.
Agree, Agree. Like I said, I can roll with punches, it is this matter compiled with a slew of other bad decisions, along with them yes, not anticipating what is required to manage games effectively, to their dismissiveness of the community, to the nil community engagement, that is what gets me.
The mere fact that their solutions to bots have been also hinder the playerbases experience and progression is a huge problem. You don’t implement measures that impact your customers. You should not be taking measures that do not effect your customers, bottom line. You implement back end processes that are essentially invisible to the customer and if that means you have to forfeit some short term profits to implement a team to sit there and ban bots and manually review gold transactions, then so be it. Long terms earnings will be better.
The mere fact that we have been sitting here for how long with how many bots? How many were removed like 200K…how long have people been complaining?
I get the impression this both a combination of lack of understanding the problem they were fighting and the lack of the partnership needed with SG to build what was needed to do it and quickly. This is something that should have been dealt with when it first became an issue not something coming a few patches down the road.
I mean even from the stand point that you have a literal botnet attacking your businesses services. How is this not treated like any other cyberattack and with such criticality? Just because its a game doesn’t mean this is any less of an invasion and attack on a critical piece of your businesses infrastructure. I could understand hundred or thousands of bots, but literally 60-70% of all active accounts for the last year is insane to me why that wouldn’t be seen as P1 critical issue all hands on deck. But as I said it seems like no game treats it like that
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Yes, Yes and Yes.
It might take 5 minutes, but if you take let’s say an 8-work hour shift you could ban a lot of these rats that buy gold, and like I said in contrary with bots. If you ban 200k bots it doesn’t matter they just come back, on the other hand we have 100k active players, once you start getting close of banning 10k of players that bought gold from bots, you will start seeing a shift in the mindset because now there are consequences and little Timmy who spent 2k hours playing won’t risk his account for buying extra gold from bots.
Then you didn’t solve the botting problem. That cannot exist regardless of the RMT. Its flooding the market with more than just gold.
OfCourse you fucking do, once everyone is afraid of buying from bots, it is no longer a business for the bots and they will just find another game to fuck up, while at the same time the less people buy from golds the better the in-game economy will be because inflation will decrease. You can see progress being done with this method, not like the method of banning bots which hasn’t helped with shit for a year.
Again how do you detect RMT again when it can just be done by buying a T3 gem and mailing or giving it in trade?
You can track trades lol, and in order for the player to receive gold out of a T3 gem, that T3 gem needs to be passed to him for let’s say 50k, how hard is it for a human to see that T3 gems in the market are not worth that? While at the same time looking at the “player” with the name uiofhidfuis giving that T3 gem
So now you have to look into whether or not the people talked about it? And if they agreed to anything? What if they talked on an alt or at another time or in discord like guildies probably do and just completing the trade now?
If I send you a level 9 gem unsolicited can I get you banned that way? You seem to think that is super easy to replay and see every transaction that a person has and also be able to fully understand the context of why those trades are happening. Every layer you add more time which means you’re paying people to chase things that may end up in banning legit innocent players that have little to no recourse because you can’t believe anything they say.
As easy as letting player base know that if you receive a valuable item from someone that you don’t know, report it as soon as possible. If days go on after the player received and acquired the item, then just ban that rat because is clearly a RMT trade.
Do you check every mail you have in your mailbox to make sure that it is something you’re expecting? I sure don’t and I would willing to bet that most people don’t.
I just gave you a number of different scenarios that are going to create extremely grey areas that you’re asking a person with zero context to try and judge if people get banned or not. Simply because you think that trade MIGHT have had a real world component somewhere else you can’t see. I’m just pointing out just how difficult it is to know 100% sure that everything you see is actually RMT or not. Why are you assuming the people are not getting banned for RMT and that its simply not having the detterence effect you’d expect?
Like I said, once you acquire the item. If it lays on the mail, then don’t apply the rule, and I have given you simple solutions for each of them.
And does AGS need to publish this process for you to see in order for you to believe that any of it is happening or how will that happen? Because as I’ve said I’ve seen a lot of people getting banned for RMT over the last year.
Just like I’ve heard of several people in guilds who apparently got banned in this wave too.
Based on what everyone says in Forums, Discord, guilds, etc. The common understanding of the masses is that everyone is buying from golds with no consequences, perhaps the 1 week banned but he kept all his gold, I have heard those.
1 week ban? When did this happen? I heard of some 1 month and 2 month bans that seemed like light slaps, but never 1 week for RMT? And the ones I’ve heard of more recently were all perm bans. If you do GVG you hear about a lot more of the bans and things over the last year. Most of the guilds were the ones that had the gigachads in them that RMT’d.
Well, I do not take part in p2w activities that is for sure. While I hope that is true because I do hate illegal “smallppgigachads” the big problem now is that at the start AGS was afraid of banning the few who bought gold from bots, causing no consequences for it (when it was easier to track these few players), now that the majority do it, the problem is inflation. If a few gigachads buy everything at whatever price, who cares? the problem is when the average Timmy has money that he should have not, and we are stuck with book prices at 16k when Korea has it at half the price with more years generating gold and with more weekly gold income.
Having said that, if true and part of the reason of me creating this post. If it is true, then AGS tell us about it. Show us how many players have been banned, let the player base know about the consequences of breaking the rules in the game. Not all people behave with decency without consequences, me as an example I could be saying much worse things, but I have been temporally banned before from the forum, consequences are crucial.
Don’t think that they have less demand because they likely already have their books as well?
No, because according to them, prices never reached our prices. We have a lot of players paying 20 usd dlls for 200k gold, which is more or less 4 weeks of gold generated by an account with at least 3 legion raids per character.
They banned RMT which includes big guilds.
They also banned hardware IP changers or restrict them.
Players think they only banned bots. lol