They put in more effort than most games, to no avail because bots are bots and they aren’t going anywhere until new account creation is disabled. I’d definitely say 3:1 is the safe value to assume, in which case bots definitely do not make as much gold as players right now. After thronespire, their weekly income really isn’t that high.
do you think amazon will shut down account creation?
Honestly might be less than 3:1 but between that and 2:1
You really believe this? The AVERAGE PLAYER makes over 60k gold a week?!?
I make 30k as a very casual player who just does weeklies and rested dailies on a single character. The average player actually plays a few alts and likely makes 50-60k gold a week.
The big gold income they have is thronespire, likely going to be fixed wednesday when books are limited to 1445. At that point where is their gold income? Infinite chaos cannot be sold, who at this point is buying adventure tome? Maybe rapport but that is so little for the effort invested.
You make 30k gold a week playing one character only doing rested guardians, chaos dungeons, and 3 raids?!?
Please explain how because I must be playing this game very wrong.
yes but a weekly gold of 60k gold is not enough for the average playyers to imrpve their chracter what can you do with 60k gold? thats the amount you get per week and what kind of thing can you get when you want to equip your own chracter with that amount nothing i guess
True but one important piece of information is missing, that is we don’t know how many accounts they rotate through in a day. Let’s say the numbers show 100k bots. They may have that many running at that time, but after they finished what they had to do they go onto the next account. And this happens 24/7. So while it may show 100k, in reality it’s multitudes more because of how many accounts they have ready to log into.
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Selling mats cause no need for them for 3 months, GvG gold cause its literally free to do, busses + raid gold, easily 30k a week. Maybe you are just playing the game wrong, your main should be pulling in over 30k a week, the other characters should be around 10-15k.
The new go to methods are still una weekly gold which they still make on every single account they have and bussing their 1370 bots through oreha hard modes. The majority of their gold isn’t coming from thronespire anymore.
But the players are generating more than that per week even if we just assume 3:1. Per character for weekly + oreha is only like 7k gold. There are accounts out there generating 200k a week. And a lot of them at that, those people don’t come to forums, as a vast majority of people don’t. Each account that generates thats 200k makes up for 30 accounts that don’t. You only need an average of 21k a week to match the bot production, and we are above that just considering main characters. As soon as thronespire is ilvl locked, bots will not be able to produce what players do.
I guess I’m doing something wrong then. Could you break down your gold from each source for me please?
One character bussing 3 raids, doing rested chaos and guardian raids only and selling mats for one week.
3 raids and busses - ?
Mats sold from chaos dungeons - ?
Leaps sold from guardians - ?
Gvg - ?
Anything I missed - ?
What do you think the average player’s roster looks like?
How many characters and their ilvls?
Just play the game, seriously just play the game in its entirety. Don’t skip gvg 10k gold just cause you don’t like pvp, its free money.
I’ve never done gvg. It’s 10k guaranteed every week?
The average player is getting 10k from this every week?
No the average player gets 0 from this because they are too lazy (this is literally it, just laziness, nothing to do with skill or anything, just show up and get top 3, not hard). So if my main can do this with very minimal money invested, and no alts pumping it, everyone can do this. This is a huge gold source in the game that is just ignored by a lot of people because its pvp and its scary. This shouldn’t be discredited as a gold source that people should be expected to have. If you are whining about gold, pheon costs, etc, you are playing the game wrong. So while I have gotten about 200k from this, others are just missing that 200k for some reason. Just my GvG income is enough to beat a bot character’s weekly income. My raid income more than doubles their income. So my solo character is accounting for 3 bot characters at least, and I am on the lower end of gold income in this game. The claim that it is copium to think that bots don’t make more than players is a joke. Players absolutely make more right now.
Yes, that is why there are not many whales sticking around and more likely to hit their relic gear… That explains the BC pricing which doubled the value. Not that many whales are playing, they already go their gear more than 2 months ago
Do you think that everyone out there is just RMT-GG and not buying legitly? The argument is flawed if you think that RMT and bots are the number 1 source of gold. Whales / Spenders again generally don’t have a limit, they can continue selling $$$ and hoarding gold to hit their target ilvl, engravings, or accessories. That increases the prices of all commodities they deal with, particularly whatever phase they are on, GHL, Engravings, the accessories 100 quality ones.
Whatever they deal with will be expensive, similar things will happen when a new honing mats is released.
Inflation - real one actual deal with all commodities because the price cascades unlike what we are experiencing. They are all tied to whales/spenders that can induce a price hike at any given time. That also explains why you have this honing price hike in NA-W and NA-E even though all other servers have remain constant. This also explains why B crystals are so expensive in South America where there is low bot populations and RMT. Not many whales out there, similar to what we are experiencing. Do you think whales are still playing “farming and grinding” something that they can buy frivously?
The price hike regarding end game will hike up again with the new content 1490 honing mats… please don’t blame it on inflation.
Mr solution has arrived!
Make Lost ark a paid game via monthly subscription ( like 10eu/month ).
Puff bots gone
Puff RMTers gone
Puff pheons gone as there are no more reason for them to exist
Puff no inflation anymore
Like with a touch of a magic wand all major problems wiped out.
But it’s not gonna happen. Game industry realized they can actually make more money on F2P business model.
Bots sell 200k for $40.
It takes a hardcore player with 6 1460+ characters bussing every raid, doing all of their dailies, etc. to make the same amount somebody can get for $40 from bot RMT sites. And the ah sales page still has hundreds of pages of obvious RMT transactions with several showing 500k+ transactions.
But it’s not bots driving the problem. It’s too many hardcore players generating too much gold every week.