Part of it is because of the heavy RMT influnce in Asia along with NAW being the closest they can access the game without a huge amount of ping
However I think another part of it could be that NAW has the highest number of player used bots as well, since it looks like the “legit gold” market will possibly be booming up soon
Sprinkle in the thought that NAW also has the highest amount of people who RMT, either legit or more likely, not legit
It makes for a perfect recipe of Global’s guinea pig
If they really want to control the price set standard pricing.
I meant technically every roster makes around 50-60k gold MIN I doubt all those BC sales are from RMT.
You add the fact that there is Hyper Express Event, Bracelets I assume everyone with money will try to make the most of it. They more likely place it at the high price. Also considering the average honing is a lot higher… I assume that is where they get their pricing. Just like the 250-400g Blue Crystals i assume the closest value is T1-T3 min taps.
Lol your not gonna win against boinkboink, inflation is like his whole TED talk. Dudes always sniffing the forums for any inflation talk so he can link his TED talk.
Honestly, I really wish whenever these folks talk about “inflation” is true. Or else we won’t be facing an upward trend of Blue Crystals in NA West. After they banned a huge bot and RMT and added a Captcha.
If it can’t be put in an equation… it will more likely doesn’t exists. I think it is just a weird case of Pareidolia where people are referencing something that is happening currently IRL to a game. They are looking at it at face value. Or an influencer… just saying nonsense.
It can be put in an equation. You have 100 gold in an economy that is 1 million gold. Suddenly that economy is 2 million gold. Now your 100 gold is worth half as much.
Look if inflation is true: If the government prints $100 dollars and set interest rates attached to it (if you want to borrow it etc) that means it’s flowing in the economy that has to be paid with interest.
That 100g can just disappear from tapping your gear. It doesn’t have to be paid back nor anyone will ever know it’s printed. The 100 dollars that people loan doesn’t disappear.
It also accumulates interest rates. Whenever the U.S. hits a bubble break that money is still out there and NEEDS to get paid back with interest. More likely resulting in higher pricing.
An average roster makes around 60k gold per. Blue Crystals increased in pricing because first we are using U.S. Dollars, and second the average honing increases too. The Blue Crystals will depreciate in value if there are many whales producing the said commodity. Look at NA East pricing. This also indicates why EU-W is also cheaper because there are not that many in EU-W. The demand is low. NA-East supply is HIGH.
If we want to put in an equation: What is the standard pricing? We don’t have any. Whale/Spenders can place blue crystals at any amount. Same as any player trading gold to blue crystals. They can set it at a cheaper price. The same goes for any items in the game.
How much do bots make? How much gold disappears in said “economy”? Where are the numbers?
Yes, an average roster makes around 60k gold per week. This means that people who earn the same amount of gold as the average roster did back then when the endgame was Orehas will struggle to afford certain items because people have more gold and therefore are willing to pay more for certain things. That’s what the devs or the players means by inflation and it has certainly happened over a period of many months but I guess if you are that new you don’t know anything about it.
Are you setting a scenario here if we go back in time?
All markets change how players see fit to trade their items, again there is no standard pricing. There are no market regulations here. If you look at South America’s Grudge when the BC pricing changed to 6k gold per 95. The grudge was 30k gold +. Players will accommodate pricing. No government will step in.
The same goes with whales dumping 250-400g per 95 blue crystals because they accommodate the T1 - early T3 taps also there are lots of spenders back then. They are competing for that 500g GHL.
I would definitely say you can’t compete with spenders’ progression way back then. There are players making 700g and there is no way players afford 500 per one GHL. You can definitely afford the Blue Crystal Alternative. I think the majority of us took that route.
… Over a period of time honing increased, also you can tell the price doesn’t just crawl up. It goes down just like GHL to 30g then went up to 90g then now it’s 60g. If you look at graphs there is no way that is “inflation”. I more likely link it to supply and demand. It is the easiest mathematical solution.
Also Google Federal Fund Rate. They call it differently in other countries. If you want to learn about real inflation start with the banks.
No, I’m not setting a scenario. Just stating the obvious. KR just had a discussion about inflation on LOA ON and they were planning to address it by reducing the amount of gold in Valtan and Vykas. Shortly after the changes went live blue crystal prices significantly lowered.
If inflation wasn’t real and if the gold available in the economy doesn’t affect it then a strategy aimed at reducing the overall gold in the economy would have not worked. It worked and it was easy to predict that this would be the case because this is literally as simple as I stated it above and is the most basic economic concept ever. Everything you added is just mental gymnastics. Thanks for the ted talk, bye.
Honestly I think you watch to much streamers and repeat what they say. Their opinion is just that and all other mmos have similar issues or worse. As previously said in other posts, the game having its own launcher would fix many of those issues.
I’m from NAW, and so far, the captcha seems to be working pretty well. I rarely see any more bots. The handful that I saw are just standing around, but they eventually disappeared.
What sucks though is the price of all honing materials. After the ban wave and the captcha system, price of brel stones literally 3-4x overnight. Hate to say it, but the bots were actually helping keep inflation in check.
Hyper Express Events is 1415, 1445, and 1460. Vykas-Valtan? If players KNOW when the delivery of the content and the demand increases… guess what players will do in a non-regulated, non-standardized market. Take advantage of it.
What do you think the majority of people did when they know Reaper and Summoner’s release date? I saved most if not all my stones, anything that particularly relates to Reaper’s and Summoner’s main engraving. Ambush Master stones went up by a whopping 8000 gold PER.
Have you ever looked at the items why some have like can be traded by 1. I’m sure someone knows how to manipulate the market.
That is just simple supply and demand in a non-regulated, non-standardized market. People will take advantage of it. Same as 30g per GHL I bought a ton to sell for later.
Jesus christ… What an absolute brainlet take. Why do you think they went up to 8k gold in the first place? Because people have so much frickin gold they will just buy it at that price anyway. If players were still earning 10k gold a week that would have obviously never happened.
Did you see any ability stones selling for 8k when glavier or destroyer released? No because it’s proportional to how much gold people earn. Gem prices, BC prices and skin prices always follow this trend. Honing materials are meaningless since they are supplied by bots and most people only buy them when they are honing.
Yo can’t you just save if you plan to roll an alt or change mains? Look I’m saving gold for the Artist. If you are going to say that the Heavy Armor, Awakening, and Expert will go up in price, Because “gold” according to you is accumulating in the economy which btw actually disappears and there is no way what proportion of gold disappears whenever someone taps for honing.
There is no way of knowing someone saves his gold and decided hey why the hell not, I’m rolling a MAIN reaper anyways. I will spend as much to get my 5/3. Or someone is whaling to get that 5/3. But you are saying this is just gold that you earn per week.
But why is the market fluctuating if it involves “gold” that is circulating in the economy every week? LostArk Market Totally different from an “inflated” market. Where everything in the U.S. is going up?
You know there is a min-max buyout. We also have a cap progression. Here is a scenario here: If someone bought 300k gold accessories did we have an “inflation”? The next day the same accessory sold for a lot cheap did we have a deflation the moment that item is sold?
Here is another scenario if a billionaire played this game and decided to sell 1g per BC. Did it deflate in value?
The answer should be no because we don’t have a standard. Anyone can afford who is desperate enough to buy 6k per 95 back when South America was “inflated”. Any whale can post significantly different rates. This explains the differential values we get from region to region. Less whales/spenders in South America higher pricing of BC. More whales in NA East lower of pricing BC.
Haha, no. You are talking about something completely different. You are saying let’s say a new class releases and then suddenly a lot of people need the exact same thing and so the prices go up and now you are saying this is inflation because the price of something suddenly rises.
That’s not what inflation is but even if we go by this silly comparison just think about if everyone or the average player made 1 million gold per week obviously those Awakening and Expert ability stones wouldn’t stop at 8k gold. Because then everyone can just buy like 1250 of it and when people know you are making a million gold a week they’re not going to sell it to you for a mere 8k gold. If you can’t work this out then it’s honestly a you problem.
Not going to keep arguing because I honestly feel like having a discussion with a flat earther. It’s just pointless and I think opinions like this are so ridiculous they don’t deserve attention.
If you are talking about blue crystals pricing in general… can it be close to the average honing similar to the reasons why the BC was sold for 250-400g per 95? Now the average honing is different and BC is higher so does it accommodates that value?
You are talking Valtan and Vykas and why the pricing “goes up” in South Korea. I told you why it does that, players are taking advantage of the sudden demand every time they deliver a Hyper Express Event that boosts players (who more likely will not have gear) to that respective ilvl. Guess what they need to get gear, they need to get that accessory, engravings etc. This explains why the pricing of Epic Class engravings is remarkably higher than it used to be. We have a Hyper Express until February.
But you are not making a million a week… and there is no way knowing that player is saving like me to get my Artist to high ilvls and willing to spend a million gold in a week. Do you get this?
At any given time depending on how desperate the player is, he can buy an overpriced engraving, gems, blue crystals because it fulfills the progression they wanted. Retroactively someone can be desperate enough to sell a cheaper price, engravings, gems or blue crystals.
But yes I’m done with you. Also, google what causes real inflation.
