yer i asked my ISP if they can fix it as its part of my service and router based so they have to deactivate it on their end just a waiting game now and hopefully i can get back in on my home internet have to hotspot right now but its not the best service
It really is looking like AGS leadership slapped a huge broad band-aid on the issue and said: ‘This is good for now guys, this’ll be good fer awhile. We’ll come back later and see how things be going.’
My ISP said they don’t use VPNs but my Indonesian isn’t very strong. I tried contacting them multiple times too, as different techs have varying levels of English language.
If I look at whatsmyip right now, it knows I’m connecting through Biznet so if they are using a VPN, its not a very good one. lol
Hope the changes your ISP makes can fix the issue for you!
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thanks
i was affected but never used wpn or bot programs, your argument is invalid.
And they are being banned. Why is it so hard to for some people to understand?
Things in life are mostly not All or Nothing.
Can you say banning VPN has zero affect on Bots? It might not have stopped ALL the bots, did it stop some? How many players got stopped vs how many bots got stopped? No one knows. And until there is data, everyone who purposes one way or the other is just talking out of their ass.
considering the queues went up instead of down today, rest assured, the bot number went up and not down because they are retaliating. It is actually hilarious what clowns work in the IT department of AGS
not every VPN is meant to conceal your IP.
E.g. if you use Exitlag it doesn’t conceal your IP on purpose, that is also a reason why basically every game has about 0 problems with exitlag.
And we don’t have a crystal ball to know whether the number would have been a lot worse without VPN.
Plus, because you enforced the rule, the rule breakers retaliated, so don’t enforce the rule?
Fighting Bots will 100% impact legitimate players. That is a reasonable assumption everyone would agree on. It is just a matter of how much inconvenience. That would have been a better point than the above.
Actually that sentence is really inaccurate and yes, Roxx (and other CMs) are generalizing the term VPN as well.
Here, linked it for you: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201482650&pop-up=1
There is no where in the ToS which states it prohibits the use of a Virtual Private Network, it merely states that players are not to obfuscate their location.
Services such as Exitlag does not do obfuscate the user’s region or location. It merely routes their packets through a more efficient open UDP route.
I kindly ask everyone here to keeps shoving the term ToS to affected players face to learn what exactly services like Exitlag does and familiarize with the ToS you all love so much.
It’s obvious AGS put in the VPN ban to block legit players and make more room for bots /s
It’s both saddening and hilarious to see that the bot problem seems to have gotten worse since the VPN ban started. It’s almost like the bot farmers are intentionally doing this out of retaliation/trolling or something.
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does it really matter? All we know is that they banned legit players while the bots continue 
nope the bots just like to show them that they cannot win just for fun.
if you didn’t graduate from clown school, there are certainly ways that wouldn’t impact legit players.
But it is what it is.
Thing is it was a major dumbo business move. Imagine you even lift the ban, do you think players now want to invest money when they cannot trust this company anymore?
after all ToS say they can bann your account whenever they want for whatever they want
The VPN ban came very quickly after Lost Ark was launched on GeForce Now (as well as the Shadow PC ban that Mac users use to play this game). You do the math and tell me it isn’t a coincidence.
So “Mr I didn’t graduate from clown school”? What method do you purpose that doesn’t impact legitmate players at all?
pay me, I will tell you.
They get paid and come up with a terrible solution.
All solutions will not make bots disappear but there are a lot of ways to reduce the bots.
Also i can tell you as much as that they chinese not only deploy bots, but they are also multiboxing 50 accounts which make any detection software or even a captcha relatively useless.
They kinda made their own grave with how the game is designed anyways, as a massive cash grab
It feels really disingenuous so many people are going “lul good try ToS abusers” if it was that big of a deal this system would of been in place day 1 not let people play the game for 2 months then drop this as a desperate anti bot measure.
Sure it’s in the ToS but don’t sit on a moral high horse over it, it also shows very little regard for the playerbase.
(P.S I don’t use one, just have empathy for the people who can no longer play the game after potentially investing time and money into it.)
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No. My sentence is accurate.
VPN stands for “virtual private network” — a service that protects your internet connection and privacy online. It creates an encrypted tunnel for your data, protects your online identity by hiding your IP address
Broad definition, but still a definition. And their ToS:
Oh, and then there is this:
Now. If you dug a little bit deeper into my responses, you would have seen that I argue for AGS to not ban, and even partner with ExitLag as their service is not exactly a VPN and the service they do provide helps gamers improve their ping, which is what SEA and OCE players need considering that they do not have their own dedicated server for their region.
I understand that maybe it’s easy to get caught up in frustration and all that, because emotions are running high, but kindly understand that while I am pointing out that AGS is doing what they’re doing and that they have a right to do it, I also do not agree with the broad stroke in which they have applied their policy.
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Yes, that’s the “official” definition of a virtual private network so much so that it encompasses any technology that uses similar solution such as packet routing services such as Exitlag.
The ban is definitely a scorched earth method and it’s placing AGS in a very bad optics, not just because it bans services which does not actually obfuscate user’s location but it was also implemented very coincidentally after Lost Ark was launched on GeForce Now.
To add fuel on to the fire, they have also recently ban Shadow PC users which Mac users used to play the game.
Exitlag isn’t a VPN though, its a GPN and there is a difference in the encapsulation and tranmission of data. GPN’s are used to streamline routing of data, often reducing hops and in return latency.
Exitlag, along with other routing services/GPNs were unfortunately affected by Amazon’s poorly implemented “measure.”
Yes. And the situation surrounding the ToS was even way back in the day people had questions about it, so much so that they finally got Roxx to respond, giving the community the answer it had been asking for clarification about.
Now here we are, 3 months later, after Roxx clarified the question, so that people could have a clear and concise yes or no because ToS’s are filled with legal banter that most laymen don’t understand, and now you have people arguing that AGS doesn’t even understand their own ToS.
It’s baffling.
Leude, das ist ein Fuck! Sperrt alles aus RU - China - Japan Dann ist 90% Dreck weg! VPN Sperren sind Müll und ehrliche User werden ausgesperrt!