its not that i dont enjoy the system, its that they dont give chances to get mats for upgrades at the same rate as prior tiers. i dont care if im failing as long as i can make roughly the same amount of attempts as previous tiers daily. you go from 5-6 successful attempts and some fails with earned mats not purchased to maybe 1 attempt daily with a huge chance of failing. see this is the issue they dont give enough mats to do attempts to improve. this is grinding every daily everyday and weekly. you get mat starved at 1340 to 1370. so you have 4 options grind daily all mats get enough for maybe 1 attempt(slow painful), buy mats and go broke in process(in terms of gold), spend money(mari shop), spend insane amount of time grinding out chaos dungeons for increasing cost mats (stupid f’in idea for increased cost just bind them) that is your routes they all suck. im not saying increase honing rates, im saying drop more mats per daily activity or give us other ways to aquire the mats.
See, now that’s an argument I can get behind.
I do agree that they need to get more ways to earn resources into the game sooner, South Vern apparently coming real soon.tm and that should help a lot.
TBH, it’s so hilarious to see there are still those ppl with these mindsets. In comparison to Genshin, this game feels better already, at least your honing chance will be maxed out at one point, and not to mention u can even funnel mats from alts to your main, whether in genshin, you either have 3 world boss attempts or 8 dungeon attempts. More than that, even if you have a decent piece, the RNG god still can slap all your 20 days of farming into DEF, so I’m still wondering how ppl’s mentality is so weak and they still want to play MMO, better playing Tetris where u can just straight up play the game with non-stop progression
Genshin doesn’t even hide how much they want you to open your wallet.
You need several copies of the same character to max them out, the primogems are so drip fed at such a low rate and the pull rates are exactly what you’d expect from Mobile Gacha trash.
But because Loli Waifus people give it a pass.
The gameplay to top is dull as dishwater as well.
Tbh I think it’s because it’s the only hate thread up that got the mods on it so it won’t ever get deleted + criticism about player count is always going to be a popular discussion point regardless of the merits of his proof or not lol. Also, it looks like the only criticism thread that managed to not get taken down, most of them seem to be dead except this one so it def. sticks out haha
The posters point is the double standard.
People act like Genshin is amazing when it’s pure unadulterated Gacha trash with pull rates so low that even other Gachas think it’s a bit excessive.
Meanwhile this, while not perfect is far more f2p friendly by a long shot but people in here acting like it’s the 9th circle of Gacha P2W hell and it’s frankly embarrassing how many of those same people played Genshin religiously and acted like it was the 2nd coming of gaming Christ.
This is a well-built Casino,
disguised as a game.
First F2P game?
Reminder that they banned “Over a million” bots. with an all time peak of 1.3M (That you conveniently left out) and “Over a million” bots being banned and a 24 hour peak of 630K and 619 currently playing, we have likely GAINED players. Unless you expect people to believe that theres a new wave of what 600K bots?
With the fact that they have said they have regrets about the March update, it seems as though they had a plan they were sticking to, and appear to be altering at the moment. This can be frustrating, but passing 100% judgement in the first month of launch is a fallacy. If 3 months show no change, make a judgement call. If 6 months looks like they are just saying things to keep people interested, maybe think about walking away. You have to give people time to work. Months can slip by very quickly when you’re busy, and some might not be able to see what they aren’t focused on.
Considering that nothing changed to prevent bots from starting the game and that people have already posted evidence of an abundance of bots post-banwave, yes.
Haha imagine 4 months of 1370 deadzone. Literal 1 Guard Raid + Dungeon for weeks and weeks on end, just doing the same grind on chars you don’t want cause there’s ones that aren’t released for w/e reason. Even at Argos, it still doesn’t add anything more than one more item to the weekly/daily rotation and it looks like new update won’t be adding anything major anytime soon, just more gathering data on their part.
I’m hoping they pull through but WoW expac is announcing this month along with multiple other major titles, it’s going to be insanely hard to justify spending time here for low content when other games are actually full release version and fleshed out instead of a half done version like this.
If you need everything now or you’ll leave then please spare yourself the pain, quit ASAP.
There’re plenty of MMORPGs out there with 100-200k players releasing their 2nd and 3rd expansions to profitable numbers (ESO, GW2, etc.). Lost Ark needs less than 30% retention rate to beat those numbers
All MMORPGs lose the initial wave, that’s just the way it is, people come and realize it’s not their thing and leave for the next flavor of the month.
MMORPGs are made thinking long-term. A legendary weapon in GW2 can take you 3 months, some half a year and some full sets can take over a year.
That sounds long as hell for ya? Then don’t play it.
No, I’m familiar with LA, I played the other versions and they respect your time a lot more than our release. I wasn’t talking about myself, rather my friends who all quit at 1340. Like… not even a single person in my guild is really playing the game anymore after hitting 1340.
Everybody saying well this game isn’t for them, is wrong. In KR, they had the same exact issue. Do you know how many players they’ve lost at 1340? It was a huge issue and almost killed the game. They fixed it but I wont go over those right now.
LA is known to be very casual friendly, it wants to be a game for everybody. Sadly that’s not the case in our release yet.
All I’m saying is op is right and we will lose a lot of players due to poor choices made by AGS, not because “the game isn’t for you” because it’s “supposed” to be a grind, no it’s not.
I’ll continue playing the game because I’m used to grinding. But that’s not what lost ark is in other regions.
True. Nowadays everyone wants to be maxed with minimal effort. It amuses me how most of them say they have 400-500+ h played and they have less exploration/collection than me with 200h.
People don’t even know how to farm. For example one of the most ignored trade skill is EXCAVATION. If everyone would have focused on it, now they would have sold tools with 20-30kk/piece. They sit 500h in the city crying and blaming devs what shit game it is.
After they stood in tier 1 and 2 for months. This is what you don’t get it. We started with T3 enabled. Korea started with T1 and stood T1 for months until they unlocked T2. And they had increased rates after playing months with low rates. As a catch-up mechanism. And they didn’t cried like you guys do here.
Ahh why i try to explain to ridiculous people that the earth is round? Byee
this isnt korean version. get the f over your self korean mmos are trash money grabs this wasnt supposed to be that. if i wanted the korean version id play that. if i wanted the ru version id of played that. this is the western release not the f’in korean/ru version as players we are different type. im not asking for max items or increase hone rates im asking for increase mat drop rates in line with previous tiers which would allow for more attempts notice i dont say more successes just more chances to upgrade. the thing is there are more players like me that would be happy with increased mat drop rate than like yourself. with the current pace it will be maybe 10k people playing this game in 2 months so enjoy not being able to accomplish as much because lack of pop.
Then play something else. May i suggest you some single-player games where you get everything in a matter of hours? And plus you can even use cheat codes in case you can’t progress as you want.
Shadow_Fox really didn’t know Lost Ark NA/EU was exclusive to Steam? Does he play the game? Nevertheless Roxx is the ADC and will carry Lost Ark NA/EU on her shoulders. The comment has now been edited by Fox.
Can we… could we get CMs who know how the game works?
Sometimes I read FAQ | Lost Ark - Free to Play MMO Action RPG when I’m just bored myself to make sure I can help people get Steam.
I’m looking forward to the changes but it sounds like some briefings internally at Amazon would be a good idea, I’m sorry for being so critical but I love the game!
But this is how MmO works then this type of games are not for u. U will get in 1 month to 1370 to Argos twice and then what ? U will complanin again there is nothing to do and next bigger update is in next 3 months.
Down to 500k this week next week maybe less even with the patch 
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