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Just redirect your ire then. No one needs to be looked down upon just because of a few babies. It’s both depressing and insulting. Why does our version need to be different to other regions?

There’s a post of someone literally testing it out and there was only a very small percentage difference between the region. How about you bring out proof of it being 50% higher hp.

The t3 content has been nerfed in Korea many times. Its balancing, sometimes it looks like we should not do it, but sometimes it will make a diff. Every single Koreans player has agreed with the nerfs. In Korea you can get a mokkoko pass to make you automatically 1302 without even downloading the game yet. t3 content should be easier to get to. The mechanics can be learned in the lower t3 content as well.

There’s already a korean player in the main thread “stop nerfing content”, where he was uploading commments from korean players and they were against these nerfs we are receiving, so I don’t know what to tell you.

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Again, why does the balance need to be different between NA/EU and every other successful region? Answer that with a good, concise argument and I’ll change my mind.

Every single Korean player has agreed with the nerfs? Spoke with all of them, did you? I also played on KR and I am vehemently against having different balance between regions.

Yes, the mechanics can be learned in T3. That’s true, however, the same problems these people are running into in T1 & T2 will present themselves in T3. If the solution for T1 & T2 is to nerf these things, what is the obvious solution for T3 when they encounter the same issues? And feel free to extrapolate this to any future content as well.

Go to the reddit subreddit. Plenty of people saying its a good thing, content creators as well saying it’s perfectly fine. These nerfs do not matter in the long run. Once you are t3 the game changes.

OP Would you also want to have 25 levels of gear upgrades and chances as low as 2% for it to hit?

That’s what people can’t understand. The reason why they are nerfing the first raids is the real problem, since it’s about people complaining. It’s been only three weeks since the relase date, and Roxx’s argument was the low success rate, when tons of players are still playing at their own pace. If these players that were complaining get a free pass to T3, they’ll ask for even more nerfs. Funny enough, many are ignoring the nerfs for the abyssal dungeons, which is even worse.

I am still on the boat that a majority of NA/EU players are not going to be as invested as Korea. So does it really matter? This forum is at best 5% of the player base, a vocal minority whether you like that or not. Most people will not care about these nerfs, and it will allow players to progress faster. Even if you don’t like that, it won’t change. The hard core players have t3 content to really dive into. The ones who these nerfs will help, are prob never even going to do that content. Similar to final fantasy where people don’t even attempt the hard raids yet login daily.

It’s only one post though. You are referencing the the post everyone that is in favor of the nerfs are linking to, right?

But there are content creators with experience in KR and RU servers that are against the abyssal dungeon nerfs though.
Lost Ark ~ Amazon is ALREADY Nerfing Guardian Raids & Abyss Raids, Thoughts from a RU Vet. - YouTube

Already stating why it’s actually bad.
TL/DR: People get free pass to T3> Same people complain and ask for more nerfs> Either they quit or nerfs are done > even more people quiting, so this means less players to group up

Learning curve should be steady and not feel like a truck is going to roll on you when you hit T3.

According to Steam over 80% of players haven’t even reached 302 gear score. Saying it’s a vocal minority is largely irrelevant in that case because you’d also be talking about a vocal minority asking for nerfs.

What is your response to Korea giving you a 1302 character without ever playing the game? I think if smilegate has something like that implemented, they are able to balance the game to how they choose. Clearly they believe the mechanics can be learned starting at t3 without ever playing any t1-t2 content. Roxx has already stated, they aren’t the ones doing the nerfs, smilegate is. Trust in what they are doing, they know better from running the game 2-3 years.

If they are nerfing based off of stats then they might know more than you about what they feel needs to be nerfed. If smilegate really wants to fast track us to t3 in order to be equal to Korea, then they believe the userbase is falling behind for them to continue to push out more content. With the announcement of Argos, we had players complaining they were not even t3 yet.

The problem is (and I’m not making this up) people are reaching end game content without even using engraving stones or having more negative passives than the ones are better for their classes. I don’t have the screenshots here, but you can find them in the main thread. The thing is, these same people that don’t even care about why they need a 1302 gear or how to maintain it, are asking for nerfs. You get people saying that you are a hardcore/ego hungry person because someone is against these abyssal nerfs, but it’s not even about being toxic or anything. I hope things are for the best.

true, I want to experience the game created by the Korean culture, not some watered down “we know whats best for you” American version.

I agree that people do not understand the engravings and even further the combat stats as well. But they do not learn this in t1 or t2. Its not even taught or introduced to us. That is on smilegate, the current best way to learn about combat stats or engravings is to watch guide. Which is again where the conversation of the nerfs being needed because people are reading guides. Most t3 players in NA/EU are doing it for bragging rights over being better from what I’ve seen. Only the true core hardcore players are focusing on min/max already.

I agree, the game should do a better job on telling how to focus on your engravings and how to actually upgrading them (unless it’s the case you are mentioning), because it’s tricky at first and it’s an important part of your gear. Like I said, I hope things are for the best and we don’t end up getting even more nerfs that are not needed.

Every single Korea Player? What about Kanima? Isn’t he also a Korean player? He just did a video about that we gonna play a baby version of lost ark.

They call it that while having 1302 passes. The games are the same, Koreans skip t1 and t2 anyways.

I imagine NA will get paid skips once the game has been out for a bit here. Just like every other region.