Nah not on normal, when the team is full of average 1415-1430. That will lead to the 3 counter mech/wipe. Which most will get silenced before 3rd pummel or they simply have no clue whats happening! 
Then it has nothing to do with armor or cheapskates. It’s clearly skill issue.
im not in right mind just brain damage from playing too much LA and i read the entire post wrongly
It’s very simple. Agree with everyone. Quit raid. Kick player. Take in another candidate instantly because it’s an instant complete raid for someone. Go back in and do the raid properly. Hopping out and replacing someone from the raid is not a big ordeal at all. For some absurd reason players just feel like it is a big feat when it takes a minute (1) to do it and get the raid back going on. Obviously it’s harder to do on something like Valtan G2, but there are players looking for those raids too. One clean raid with a minute or two more spent in the menus is way more worth than a clear after 6 wipes
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yeah right! Typical giga whale answer!
Feels like the only ones with skill issue are giga whales. I see them get jailed in G3 Vykas HM Constantly.
Exactly!
They don’t get jailed in Valtan since if soloing it was a choice they’d be doing that probably. Even with the armors the DPS diff is so massive it doesn’t matter. Vykas though? That’s another ordeal since the raid design is so garbage wipefest school test type of a thing. All my homies hate Vykas
It’s soloable of course. Massive dmg lead to Balthor not ready and many fell from the ground and then counter knockback them. Unless Noob is playing Blue GL +1500 carry for other noobs while try hard vs 60% dmg taken reduction if nobody counters clone ghost.
eh!!! its not ghost counters mate, that is ezzzeehhh(unless 2 are countering and one goes through it).
Its the one that happens around x40 and before ghost. You see that because its Valtan NM. HM you mostly skip that/hardly see it
That’s how they are. If they never learn but pumped high level, 10lvl gems etc. Still they failed.
At being 1540 takes almost no dmg in 1445 raid, but still looking for support lol.
You’re talking about three counter? You can do solo. You do the third.
With my Alts 1460 - 1475 with pug group of 1445 - 1470. Already did thousands time like bycling. NM is easier than HM, because more forgivable.
Had been through with 1430 alts a lot before the honing started easy to 1460.
Never failed a stagger mech i only bring dark bombs ww is for scrubs that cant play their class and dont know when stagger is coming up.
what do you do? what can you do? that’s right, nothing.
the good thing now that chat shows who uses BI, is you can easily identify and kick them
This isn’t MM Kunga
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I will only use bombs if the raid will wipe if I do not, and I prefer not to use potions because it increases my attention level the lower my hp is. Makes it more entertaining that way, not for the purpose of being cheap but for fun
Ive seen trolls like you die regularly in game
Havnt done Normal Valtan or Vykas in ages so cant comment on player skill when it comes to Normal.
In HM you rarely see WW’s used in Valtan or Vykas as everyone knows when to save their stagger skills for stagger checks.
NM alts dont care about ofcourse cheapos
they just didnt feel like buying bus
what most do hardly any NM parties up
Have you done clonw g3? You need to type or Kill the trapped, and not to mention brel, you have to type in g3 and g4 too
Tbh… when you do Normal mode before Clown, you just gotta deal with it… or hone up and do Hard mode, atleast from my own experience, the people in Hard mode are more competent and it mostly jails on different factors like toxicity.
On normal, you will always find people that either:
- Say they know mechs and straight up lie in your face
- Don’t use any battle items because they just don’t bother, it’s their decision though
- Expect atleast 1-2 person to survive till the end and just carry the raid (this one’s specfically for Valtan Normal)
This is why I think Clown is one of the best raids in the game… because everybody has to carry his/her own weight and if you don’t bother, you don’t clear. (unless you gigawhale/giga F2P player skipping Maze and Mario mechs KEKW)
As you said, since people know when to use their stagger skills… something you rarely see in Normal mode, because they don’t even know their counter skill at times.