sure if he likes the game let him play it
but convicing himself by making up delusional “facts” in his mind about diablo IV is not the way
probably scared that the game will die and everyone will move to diablo IV so he will have to move aswell
Thats blizzard s fault.
Everyone watched them saying how diablo immortal wouldnt sell gear for money. With the straight up intention of letting players know it wouldnt be pay 2 win.
What happened at release was a game needing 300.000 dollars OR 11 years to max out.
Doubts are 300.000% legit.
No it doesnt. The game is the biggest pile of shit ever made and whoever forced devs to make it like it is should be dropped on a desert island in the middle of the ocean.
Period.
Immortal doesnt have any excuse nor justifications for the game it is. It literally spat in the faces of millions of appasionate players.
Shall i remind you the massive bugs and glitches? Guy spending 200k usd not able to even matchmaker due to lack of similar level taking 4 months for a fix?
There s no wishful thinking here to be done nor white knighting. You re comparing a phone game made just to milk and predate players having 4 skills and the whole power system based on spending vs a game that offers the best combat and raids dynamics but is too greedy and lazy to get even better. Which is yes predatory too but not remotely as much as immortal.
You d have to be either a fool or a troll to think LA is worse than that trash can garbage
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you obviously fed up with youtubers bullsh!t
Im playing both - for months , reached endgame in both
and I am telling ya lost ark is 100% worse
you havent played immortal, so argue no further cus u have no clue
there were no massive bugs and glitchs
yes that guy is an extreme case and got his issue fixed (unlike SG who wouldve never fixed)
true, its a phone game, have you seen a non-p2w phone game? what did you expect?
mm wait? you mean lost ark? I aint talking about gameplay, lets talk pure design
“whole power system” no - just pvp power
the thing is you spit so much hate on a game you never played, only jumping the foolish hate train made by dumb gamers, the same who nuke lost ark steam reviews when they got banned… “dont play this game you will have ban on your steam account!$#!#!” … such idiots…
DI is getting better with every update, they improve, they listen to feedback (truely they are)
unlike here, gatekeeping, pheons, lack of support, very long daily grind which devs refuse to change so they can cash grab more
let me tell ya something, if you invest the same amount of hours people here invest in lost ark (5k+) , I assure you that you could compete with whales or atleast be at the very top of the power scale, unlike here… these people are still being gatekept
I aint “defending” DI system, but if you are playing lost ark you have no right to trash about it, the shit you eat stinks 10 times more
Things can change from today till the day of release (5+ years kekw)
My concern is more Bandai than Amazon at this point. They are so hit and miss regarding quality control on alot of their games that I just don’t know if they are the company I would trust with MMOs. Also Japan has such a shaky history with me regarding MMOs. People like to praise and lift up FF14 but they seem to forget what 14 was like before ARR.
Too many titles for 2023 … i’ll try them all and would definitely settle for the ones with the best PVP system, Graphics, Story, Game System/Complexity and last but not least, a real mmo unlike LA 
100% Agree! Diablo Immortal is the biggest abomination in recent time. But as you can see, there are people defending this kind of game while at the same time making snarky comments towards people “defending” Lost Ark and what not. “LOL”
Sometime i just cant believe what i am reading even tho its in plain sight^^
idd DI is fu!@# badly monetized
2 things tho
it consume much less time to do daily “chores”
it not limited by itself version from other country and its publicity
actually they put a loot of changes even gived 1 extra gem/week (should be 10/week imho for amount required to max out anything 
)
“rubber band” exp is also something worth mentioning
now what is not right with LA you know better than me so
DI being bad dosent make LA good sadly
No it doesnt. Thats a fact i think anyone would disgree on. BUT its the “lesser evil” if you want to look at it this way.
I dont care if its less daily chores. The fact that people got shunned and called out in a game for not buying crests to juice runs, that you need on average 150k dollar to deck out your character and the big “season pass” is already enough to make it worse than LA is.
And pls dont argue with you dont need to, you dont have to, you can by playing… Cause you are doing the same to LA players trying to “defend” their game. Double standards much.
I’m gona chill here and wait for Riots new mmo… if that one fails I’m done with games in general , gona become a monk or drunk …
probably should go back to playing single player games XD. Usually those do pretty well.
lost ark will probablybe my last mmo. The path monetization is following is too much for me. All those FOMO inducing systems and rng to force swiping if you are unlucky. This is not for me. If not for the guild i would have quit a long time ago.
And to think that there was a time in my life when i was mad i could not subscribe for monthly premium account ( had no job yet ). Man… i wish those things were back instead of whatever helish monetization system the current game have.
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Bold of you to think you will be alive in 80 years when the riot mmo comes out.
Also going on history and countless examples the amount of hype the riot mmo has had for years based on absolutely nothing no matter how good the game might be when it releases it’s going to get ripped to shreds because people won’t be happy with it. Every single tiny issue with the game will get picked to death and make a good majority of them quit because we live in bandwagon sheep generation where as soon as any influencers say anything they absorb it as their own opinion.
Not really. 95% of Lost Ark concurrent players quit the game 1 month in even with all the hype videos and lies from streamers. Doom videos followed after the mass exodus. That bandwagon sheep generation is only the 5% left playing.
Most streamers and influencers quit the game in 1 month too that’s why they all left same sheep if their influencer quit they quit simple. We are talking about actual streamers and influencers here not the randoms that still stream it today lol. Almost everyone still streaming the game today was playing the kr version before global was out anyway they have nothing invested in the west apart from milking viewers for money.
This only affects the mentally weak. Ive never been forced to buy anything because i can actually choose what i want to do.
Definitely D4, only because of Druid re-introduction (my all time favourite). Altho not sure if u can call it a fully fledged MMO. Only some parts will be available, like world bosses.
Out of that small list of games… Lost Ark.
But to be honest, another MMO has my heart and money atm, and I don’t see that changing any time soon… Sadly it’s not on your list.
The majority left when on release EU servers were flooded with bots you couldn’t log in for weeks and you were always behind. The rest fell off even before reaching 1370.
1340-1370 is where the majority of players dropped, simply because casuals won’t hone into that dead zone.
EUW and SA abandoned. NAW being bot central for a year now to a turned off captcha. Delayed classes, poor communication, and the list goes on and on.
Players didn’t need streamers to tell them any of that, they witnessed it firsthand, along with the fabulous management of AGS. While they might have influenced them into trying the game, they didn’t get them to stay.
You are correct about the sheep mentality, but that accounts for only the minority of the overall population that played the game. For instance, anyone who sees current inflation knows for a fact that playing legit requires an insane amount of hours and/or swiping, and will leave regardless of what the influencers say.
Look at the threads here and on other platforms, they all revolve around the experience of new players being a bot infested game with insane gatekeeping and huge inflation. Funny enough that was always the case from the get go, so whether streamers stayed or left, it’s the same miserable experience.
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