Why AGS will never take action against RMT

Pretty much every negatively received action from AGS so far has one source: greed.

This is no different.

Essentially, once they finally manage to implement some working solutions for bots generating RMT gold, the RMT prices will go up and it won’t be worth it to buy from RMT sites.

At that point, they will swap from buying RMT to, to buying gold with Royal Crystals.

Or if they temp ban them, the player will be scared to keep RMTing, but still wants to buy gold, so they will buy with Royal Crystals (or just keep buying RMT because they know AGS will never take any real action).

This is why you will never see any evidence that AGS takes any action against RMT beyond like 1-3 day temp bans, even though they say they have “the ability to”. You will never see a screenshot of negative gold from the western version. You will never get a list of punished players like they get in KR.

All you will get is CMs saying “we temp ban sometimes”, or “we do take action against RMT” with no actual specifics or evidence outside of an unspecified ban.

They just think these players are whales they will eventually get money from, so they will never take any real action against them.

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The other 1000 Threads about this are obviously not enough … :woman_facepalming:

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I don’t think there is another thread specifically about this.

There are threads about RMT, but they aren’t the same.

There aren’t. Steam reviews and the forums need to be plauged by people complaining about RMT until something meaningful is done.

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Okay, i’m trying to wrap my head around all you people saying they don’t care about RMT. First of all, there is official real money to gold trade in the game. Second of all, by doing no actions against RMT’ers except suspending them, it will somehow magically make those RMT’ers to start spending on the game legally instead of Illegally. I don’t understand how Point 2 works. If they don’t start taking away gold and banning people then no RMT’er will ever want to spend normally on the game. That means Amazon gets nothing out of the current situation. It is normal for gaming companies to suspend/take gold away for first offensives. It happens in Runescape as well. However, second offense is making it obvious that those guys don’t care about purchasing legal gold so they will typically get banned. However, the forums people think Amazon is greedy because they want people to buy from the RMT sites indefinitely while losing tens of thousands of potential dollars.

If you’re RMTing, and you get suspended, you’ll probably go “oh crap if I keep doing it they might perma me”, but you still want to buy gold.

Also, if the price of RMT gold goes up (preusmably if they actually do something about bots in the future), the benefit of buying RMT gold over Royal Crystals will not be nearly as much, so they want those players that buy gold to still be around.

Yes, this is exactly how most MMORPG’s do it for first time offenders as I said. However, you are saying this:

Games do take real action against multiple time offenders. There is obviously no gain from those people. The multiple time offenders are the real problem not the one time offenders.

Other games maybe.

Remember AGS is an incompetent studio that has no clue how to actually run a game, as we’ve seen here and with New World.

If they were actually doing something about multiple time offenders, we would see posts of negative gold and permabans from RMT. People who report people they know RMTing wouldn’t say that those people are still playing and RMTing months later.

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Okay, there is a difference between incompetence and greed though… Them not doing anything is incompetence which causes them to lose a lot of potential money and hurt the in-game economy. Them being greedy wouldn’t be them losing money at all. It feels like you wanna paint AGS as greedy but are failing to do so because they aren’t doing jack crap to benefit them further than they could’ve easily done. Aka monetize the exact same way Russia or KR does it.

The difference is just way too big!

RMT gets you 3-4 times the amount, compared to buying RC and exchange them. Also, for the Whales, there is no $400 limit on RMT, like there is on the ingame store!

If people know they can buy a product, without any disadvantage for only 25%-33% of the regular price, they will go for it.

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They won’t ban multiple time offenders because they think once they do something about the bots that makes the price of RMT gold go up they can get those people to buy their gold.

It’s just greed.

i dont care about RMT i care about classes too much gold nerf and thousands of other things RMT doesent affect me

I see. So they’re waiting on something that isn’t happening for a while so they can lose profits right before a massive recession hits the US while prices inflate all over the world. Obviously, they want to be on the losing end of the spectrum for many more months! Too much greed on Amazon’s end to lose money for a long time I guess while they wait for SG to also make sure that any of these methods wouldn’t break the game. Could easily take months for this stuff to happen. Obviously, they want to lose potentially $100k+ over those months.

Cool rambling post that’s literally meaningless.

They clearly think there’s no upside (monetarily) and a potential future downside to banning multiple time offenders.

Instead of rambling about some vague misunderstanding large scale economics, how about providing some reasoning why they aren’t heavily punishing multiple offenders in LA, or if you think they actually are some proof of it considering there are no indications they are thus far.

Not to mention it has been shown that chinese bot farming streamers have only received temp bans, and go right back to bot farming and RMTing and straight up advertising on stream.

Yeah, your whole post makes 0 sense. They want to lose profits for a long period of time while using money to help SG develop a new way to prevent an infestation of bots. It makes 0 sense from a business stand point. You are losing way too much money and RMT will never be a problem in the case you are pointing out because the RMT’ers are never getting punished and RMT gold will always be below the legal way to make gold. How about you think for a second and see how they benefit. Your whole idea on how this works is a loss at all times from AGS’ stand point so it is not greed. If anything, them not banning them shows that they are being incompetent which as you said was a thing for AGS for a while. New world was not the first start it was their other games that failed too. You need to read my text before actually responding because apparently you aren’t thinking or aren’t willing to think because you just want to paint AGS as greedy.

They are banning them, it’s just a slap on the wrist 1-3 day temp ban and most of the time not even taking the gold from what people have said.

Which clearly shows it’s not incompetence, because they are identifying and banning them, but they don’t want to actually remove them from the playerbase, they just want to scare them into buying gold from them, which is clearly greed.

And if the motivation for light punishments is greed, they have no actual motivation to do heavier punishments for multiple offenders, because it doesn’t make them extra money in the short term to do so, and they might get money from them in the long term.

That is not a ban. That is a suspension. There is a difference.

As i said, the problem aren’t one time RMT’ers its multiple time RMT’ers. You refused to read what i said literally 2 posts ago… The ones that are inflating the gold in the economy are the multiple time offenders. Every company does a suspension first then a ban next. However, the incompetence shows is when then don’t ban multiple-time offenders. Please read my posts properly. I literally went over this. Though, i won’t be responding anymore since you obviously refuse to read.

You’re the one refusing to read.

They don’t care about the ingame economy being messed up. They just want money.

They just care about the possibility of RMTers eventually buying gold from LA instead of bots, and not having to put extra effort into dealing with them.

So they won’t do anything about multiple time offenders, since they might be able to make money from them eventually.

You have zero evidence in anything you say, while everything I’m saying is backed up by their words and actions.

I mean they literally said they are delaying class releases because they are “valuable business moments”. They just care about the money.

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If the multiple-time offenders never get truly punished then why in the world would they ever buy gold legally. Literally will be the last time I comment to you since you’re going to make my head hurt at how you keep not making any sense if we summarize all your statements. Think about that statement you typed and all the statements you’ve typed. RMT gold will never be more expensive than the legal trade. That means that if they never ban these multiple-time offenders AGS will never make any profit from them so there is no reason to keep them.

Already answered multiple times, again you refuse to read.

They think eventually they can affect bots/RMT to the point where the price of gold from RMT sellers is much higher, and then if they crack down harder at that point they can get the multiple time offenders to buy royal crystals.

Currently RMT gold is super cheap and royal crystal gold ratio isn’t high enough (it’s like 3x what it is here in KR).

it doesn’t have to be more expensive, it just has to have far less of a difference, with royal crystals also giving more.

A little bit of critical thinking is hard though I guess.