I don’t see the logic in it unless people need to finish their relic set. You get 4k gold and a few jewelry rolls, but you waste a ton of time trying to clear it if there are multiple wipes at end phase. If they already have it completed, why buy a run any more? Is it better just to leave it unfilled for the week? Furthermore most of the runs are no book bids, so your chances of making a profit on it is maybe nil. As the economy becomes more inflated the prices for busses go up and up, so I wonder if people are just going to drop buying busses at some point. What are people’s opinions are on this. As a active worker I wish i had time to learn the actual raid but I don’t sadly, I really can’t find that many learning groups in LFG anymore either, so I’m pretty reliant on busses to get me through content.
Isn’t it, fully equipped players with 6 characters think that they earn 40k gold per character per week, and they earn 250k gold by just doing dungeons a week. I didn’t even count other things. incredible. The reason people still buy it is probably because they don’t want to bother and because they don’t have the time they just want tall and well equipped people to carry them directly to complete it quickly. or bots.
I dont get ir either I assume is for the relic set or the gear conversion, you know, to get it faster
once you have both of those things, you can just do normal vykas and its easy and fast
you are gonna lose 1.2k gold but idk… you get more than buying bus
People honing for a few months to get a lot of characters 1475+ for Clown + People losing Argos gold for honing that high + People having a hard time completing Clown = They’re wanting to make up that money difference somewhere
I was thinking about buying a Vykas bus just to see how it’s done with 3 people
Saw that price
Nope
However some people will pay it to get the mats
I dun get it either
im one of those players before where i buy run on vykass since the set conversion + there is 0 learning party to see in the party even if i create one it will take an hour or 2 just to get 5 players just for dps and another hour or 2 for the supports but luckily i found people who is willing to help me learn vykas hardmode and i did my first hard mode clear last week
You know that on release just even Vykas Normal was around 10K gold and Hard was like 12K+, right? Then it stayed at around 8-9K for a while. 4K is pretty generous for carrying a content that is hard to do with people who are actually Clueless . People still pay 1.4K - 1.5K for Argos again since new class is out with powerpass and everything and Argos can be duod in your sleep by now. Vykas parties are just a pain to do especially later in the reset since most people that have many alts there run all their runs near the start of the reset.
Also they’re able to charge 4K because 3manning or even 4manning Vykas actually takes some knowledge to do and there are mechanics which if you fail they just insta wipe you. Gate 1 is also done in Normal probably so the person can timestop the Gates/Orbs mechanic at the start cause I don’t know if it’s even passable in Hard with 3 people total since you need to do at least 3 Orbs properly to pass it. Because of all of that there probably aren’t as many people that “can” (doesn’t mean they don’t try) bus Vykas compared to Argos or Valtan.
People were desperate as hell last week if they dumped everything into the new class. Pretty sure over 50% of players we bussed were Scouters wearing 1 Valtan piece and 5 Argos/Oreha LMAO
Only 4k? At euw its 8k per nhh bus, seen some for 9k.
The reasons are obvious why people pay for bus. They want mats but they are gatekeeped at ilvl, have no time particular week to do raid themselves etc.
If you join a bus with “no bid”, always bid. I paid you to carry me, don’t be greedy and take the books too. Idc honestly, i always bid at least to make them pullout some gold if they want that book. Some bussers became so greedy lmao.
Nah, that is not the right way, just dont join than. Its not about being greedy, some bus drivers make the price lower but no bid. Which should be fine, otherwise they increase the gold price for the run.
Just dont join the lobby than. Vykas NM as an example is really not that hard. I got without nine as Scouter with 1445 no relic gear with a supp the boss down to 5hp bars before enrage.
Raids should be challanging. Idk how many times i died in phase3 by Vykas as i was learning the mechanics. Its the same for clown now! And it will be easy in a few weeks/months too.
There is a reason why there are so many title runs. Once you cleared Vykas 10-30 times, you know how their pattern works.
I have a friend that hones the character to 1430 due to the free books.
Do not even have 3x engraving. Have very little gold earnings and cannot find most of his gear on AH due to the low drop rate. He main Soulfist. There are zero accessories with Raid Captain and Energy Overflow. He got two other accessories and now, he is stuck on trying to recombine…anyway, all that aside
A NNN Vykas bus costs anywhere from 3300 - 4500
Makes zero sense to me as to why people are buying it at that price.
Vykas normal, all 3 gate only gives 3100 gold. One is losing gold on that bus…
The bus sure be set 2k or below
You forget that they could also run HM. So you get less gold by bussing as going for hm directly. So to break even its around 1,2?k gold. +4 TS for all phases in general and pots.
Idk if it would be only 2k gold instead of 3k i wouldn’t even care to carry NM and rather to go for HM.
People should just go to training party’s. Mby look for a discord to find people for it. There are enough who still need practice in these raids but most people give up after a hour or 2. So nothing changes
Why is this topic in Game Feedback instead of General Chat? This is not something that game forces upon you. Its something that came from community. I see a Game feedback directed more towards game developers. When you want something to be changed in the game.
And if I was to answer to topic author…
if you are behind, have no title. You are excluded from parties. Taking 10 busses might be your only option with this game’s community.
I have only seen 1 Vykas learning party that did not blew up after 2 fails.
I go lobby and see everyone ask for title or ask for your gold.
If you don’t have the 1st one you might be forced to do 2nd one.