Pretty much are. But that’s just my personal perspective. I started out playing a ton of Sorc after all but it was legit boring af for me so I ended up deleting her around 1370 back when that was a neat thing.
sorc handily outdpses gunslinger while having a way easier time doing it. also lets not even mention sharpshooter or deadeyes here. Sorc is definitely OP considering how easy she is to play
It’s ok for a class to be easier to play and deal the same amount of damage (not more mind you, but easy to play often translates into more damage).
T-they do though? You’re just not playing the class right then.
For starters Paladin is a support so of course it should have higher survivability than a Sorc. However I run level 3 heavy armor on my sorc and I’m almost tankier than my friend who’s a Paladin. I do more damage than him and I am tankier than him with heavy armor.
As for gunlancer he is the most tankiest class, more than my heavy armor sorceress, so more than a Paladin. They also do less damage than me as a sorceress.
Bard and Artist MUST run heavy armor though to be equal to Paladin. It’s just in the class. I do agree it’s a little odd the supports aren’t comparable in tankiness but alas.
Sorc with heavy armor. I mean you do you, but there should be a limit
I’ve soloed Argos for almost 7 minutes before the time ran out on my 1370 Gunslinger and used only 2 blue pots. You need to learn mechanics.
They make engravings to make yourself damn near indestructible. My artillerist is usually the last guy standing in Argos pugs, this is literally a choice you can make in game. How can you equip grudge and cursed doll and cry about tankiness? Yikes. This crowd is so funny.
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Same experience. Sorc with heavy armor. Almost always last one standing
Not the point of the game though. It feels like the game is a chore to you and what matters when doing raids is just clearing them.
You are supposed to take damage. You are supposed to be incentivized to not get hit and get better. Trying to deny this is weird. But I’m not here to judge, I just find it weird.
Also this won’t last that long. It will get harder and harder to be ok to get hit. There will be a wall you will crash into at some point
Because game developers do not design encounters where you can tank or heal a mob to death.
Bring the deeps or wipe.
This games was designed for you to dodge and not tank mechanics.
I was agreeing, not sure why you are replying to me
You’re not tankier even with heavy armor.
But that’s besides the point.
Gunlancer is the best class in the game for raids and it’s not even close. Only 2 supports can compare, but from all DPS classes Gunlancer is the best, it’s just that noone wants to play him and people think it’s some kind of a support, which it’s not.
Gunlancer’s numbers on DPS meter in Trixion are lower, but that’s because you’re hitting a target that doesn’t hit back. Gunlancer has by far the highest uptime of any class and that’s the most important thing. Forget about Gunslinger and Sorc doing higher numbers when in for example Arogs P3 all they do is dodge AoE after every attack. Gunlancer is constantly on the boss and doesn’t care.
Not to mention it has two best abilities in the game. Debuff (paladin also has it) and taunt. A high skilled player with taunt is the best thing you can have in a raid. It’s a game-breaking ability, imo. Skips so much mechanics and annoying abilities. And there are obviously counters which are the easiest to do on a GL.
Now this kind of statement is just bizarre. Feels like you are not even playing the same game as I do. Theorycrafting from a distance
Artilerist doesn’t need heavy amor, he is tankier enough with his shield. Maybe he can take it as 5th engraving. About sorc. Mine main alt is insta reflux, have ton of mobility, easy to dodge almost everything and i do damage all the time even when i am running thanks to blaze. I am using grudge 3, hit master 3 and reflux 3 with heavy armor 1. The problem of insta reflux sorc is the mana right now. Paladin is support class, it’s normal to be tankier then dps range class.
Thats why people should not use grudge and cursed doll. Too early for them. Learn the game mechanics, learn ti dodge the basics attacks of the boss, then go grudge and whatever u want.
- On another way, go 1700 endurance
Lmao first off your tankiness tier list is wrong Gunlancer is S tier.
Mayhem Zerker is F along with classes like reaper, Soulfist is like B.
If you’re know the fight well enough, you will do fine even if you have grudge, cursed doll, and defense reduction 3. As you become more skilled, the more toughness you can forego. You will only get better. Toughness is fine for beginners but you shouldn’t go out of your way to include it into your build, especially if it would replace valuable DPS slots.
There is currently not a single boss that has enough chip damage to kill you without a support in the party lol. You die because you didnt dodge something which is a you-problem, tldr —> git gud.
Imagine thinking berserker and sorc are b and c tier.
In what world exactly?
You git gud and you won’t need a support. Just dps it down.