Not if you’re reaper
Range vs melee, deadeye is on another lvl.
How is that paladin can tank better than gunlancer? Afaik gunlancer is the best tank in game, im not gonna touch the dps thing because as gunlancer main i believe most classes will out dps me.
because in the endgame, everyone is overshielded by the supports and can really just do whatever they want to
well do it a few more times and argos wont hit you at all. The boss is super easy to dodge and in case you understand the pizza it wont dmg you either.
You forgot to put the #1 support DPS on the list, Wardancer!
S tier!
It is skill though, not luck. Bosses, especially argos onward, have extremely obvious tells which means dodging is entirely up to you. If you’re failing to do that, that’s on you.
Have you ever considered…you’re just better at gunlancer? Because reading your post until this point, that’s what it seems to me. Because short of gear being the factor, a skilled sorc is going to win that dps race, every time, without question.
Sorc is legit one of the easiest classes in the game. The only hard part about them is learning to time your big hitting skills like meteor to land…and that’s not that hard nor does it put you at physical risk.
Good news, they do.
They do not.
They have DPS.
It’s even funnier to me because, especially if they’re blue gunlancers, as is popular atm, you’re comparing the highest burst DPS class in the entire game to the lowest overall non-support dps in the game and it’s just…funny.
Consider maining your gunlancer, because based off post, you’re clearly better at it.
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Sorc def does significantly more dps than gunlancer lol… Sorc is roughly around #4 in DPS at our current gear limitations after Zerker, Surge Blade and SH. But it has the highest burst in the game which people mistaken for highest sustained DPS, they are 2 diff things.
Sorc is pretty challenging to play, out of the 8 classes I play above iLvl 1370, SH, Scrapper and Zerker were def the easiest, I’d put sorc at average difficulty coz u have 0 movement skills, squish af, slow af and ur skills take forever to land, other classes with instant hit skills have it so much easier like scrapper. If u say sorc is ez then SH and Scrapper = bot classes then.
This game is about dodging minor gimmicks that bosses throw at you, and as Sorceress and Gunslingers you have free positioning in return of low HP (high risk high return). Upon dodging the small patterns, there are wipe mechanics where it requires some / all members to complete. This game is about learning the bosses patterns studying them, but If you just want to get hit by everything, and ignore gimmicks then sadly this game isn’t for you.
Congratz then , you are gonna be one of the bad players that have an infinite amount of wipes in legion raids xD
Meanwhile Igniter Sorceress is still top dps even after the nerf. So i don’t see why are you complaining.
If we are talking about Reflux…it trades everything for mobility, low casting time and simple gameplay. The trade off is dmg of course but that seems fair considering igniter suffers from all the above.
Pretty much are. But that’s just my personal perspective. I started out playing a ton of Sorc after all but it was legit boring af for me so I ended up deleting her around 1370 back when that was a neat thing.
sorc handily outdpses gunslinger while having a way easier time doing it. also lets not even mention sharpshooter or deadeyes here. Sorc is definitely OP considering how easy she is to play
It’s ok for a class to be easier to play and deal the same amount of damage (not more mind you, but easy to play often translates into more damage).
T-they do though? You’re just not playing the class right then.
For starters Paladin is a support so of course it should have higher survivability than a Sorc. However I run level 3 heavy armor on my sorc and I’m almost tankier than my friend who’s a Paladin. I do more damage than him and I am tankier than him with heavy armor.
As for gunlancer he is the most tankiest class, more than my heavy armor sorceress, so more than a Paladin. They also do less damage than me as a sorceress.
Bard and Artist MUST run heavy armor though to be equal to Paladin. It’s just in the class. I do agree it’s a little odd the supports aren’t comparable in tankiness but alas.
Sorc with heavy armor. I mean you do you, but there should be a limit
I’ve soloed Argos for almost 7 minutes before the time ran out on my 1370 Gunslinger and used only 2 blue pots. You need to learn mechanics.
They make engravings to make yourself damn near indestructible. My artillerist is usually the last guy standing in Argos pugs, this is literally a choice you can make in game. How can you equip grudge and cursed doll and cry about tankiness? Yikes. This crowd is so funny.
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Same experience. Sorc with heavy armor. Almost always last one standing
Not the point of the game though. It feels like the game is a chore to you and what matters when doing raids is just clearing them.
You are supposed to take damage. You are supposed to be incentivized to not get hit and get better. Trying to deny this is weird. But I’m not here to judge, I just find it weird.
Also this won’t last that long. It will get harder and harder to be ok to get hit. There will be a wall you will crash into at some point