Why does this game prefers to scale us down instead of scaling us up?

Just out of curriousity.

Why do we get downscaled in so much content? (Challenge abyss, Challenge Guardian, Chaos Gate etc) instead of using the book of Coordination from Inferno mode as an balancing mode and buff the Challenge abyss/Guardians/Chaos Gates around this?

I personally enjoying a maxed char way more than a T1 char, ngl.

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Do you play GvG ? :slight_smile:

if not you should do , its fun and you dont get scaled down. i like that content and you dont get scaled down , you can play against alot of whlaes who like to max out their characters

like 1550+

do you think its good to scale up to 1550+ for new players ? with 5+1, lvl 10 gems full maxed cardsets and relic set bonus , and all that kind of things, to show them what they dont reach in the next 6 month ? , thats would be super frustrating for new players. also its called challange, it is a challange to do content with less gear.

also its 3 minutes per dungeon/guardian , its a fraction of the time

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Inferno modes arent a whale bite, you are equalised but with 1445 sets and maxed tripots + lv 8 gems.

You show them, what they can reach in few months. Yes. Why should that be frustrating? Ilvl 1445 is pretty easy to get in the current game.

idk, I play SS and T1 without swiftness and without tripots, it feels like shit ngl.

I mean, I still doing the content since its worth, but I guess it could be more fun, if the bosses would have very high HP and we would play very good geared chars. That would be a challenge.

The current challenge guardians and abyss are not really a challenge imo.

I suppose because it is easier to scale down the ilvl of the character rather than scaling up the lvl of the boss depending on something very variable as the book of coordination.

The boss is already there. To equal the power of the boss with the player you would only need to reduce the ilvl of the character.

For inferno’s book of coordination, the boss difficulty, power and hp is already set. The book of coordination only changes your stats and stuff like that based on a certain ilvl power (I suppose that’s how it works?).

Nah, the BoC from inferno mode gives you 2200 stats (iirc) that YOU can choose how to distribute. You get 18 maxed tripots that you can distribute, you can choose a full relic set and you can choose all lv 8 gems you want to wear.

While there are more variables in that, I actually think its easier to balance, since you know how much the average DPS is and you can increase the HP and DMG of bosses based on that.
The current downscaling doesn’t touch your engravings. That means: If you got 5 engravings, you fight a T1 abyss with 5 engravings, but your stats gets like reduced to 30% and your relic set is gone.

idk about you, but as a swiftnessclass, getting my swiftness taken away feels pretty shit. Also the reliance of relic sets are for some classes mandatory.

But yeah, maybe its because balance stuff. Unfortunally, I think it would be more fun if the game balance around 1445

i really hate scales because it make niche builds useless for example dps paladin

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1445 is not maxing out chars its 1550+

thats a huge diffrence , you said you like maxed out chars not just 1100 or lower like it is atm for challange abyss/guardian

also you didnt answer my question if you do GvG 10+ like Slime, Medaia, Deathgrip

if you dont do , you dont have maxed out your char by far ( i didnt im only 1510 with 5 pvp engravings but only lvl 7 gems , i can assure you lvl 25 weapons hurt alot in pvp/gvg)

also if i would be a new player the book of coordination , is a hell of a struggle to set up for a t1 players , because half the things you need to consider and set up you didnt even saw and thought about ingame yet.

thats not fair that new players get overwhelmed to enter a dungeon which is normally not necessary to complete

Idk, as long as I can complete it in a weekly basis (challenges, not inferno mode), all fine :joy:

Then I miscommunicated on that part. I don’t talk about 1550+ chars, I talk about 1445.

I dont, its a whalebite and I don’t participate on that

You could fix that with a help system, that gives you the most used build, so you can play that and adjust later once you get the knowledge. There is already smth like this in the PvP book of coordination,

Yep, true tho, yet its still boring af xd

Omg yes lmao. I feel useless af in challenge mode with my swiftflux sorc that I worked hard for. Have to switch to bard alt to do those weekly things.

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