ur contradicting urself with every msg u know that right?`
btw i GURANTEE you 300% that if i went to area chat now
and wrote “We have opened a community discord for bussing! Sell and Buy runs safely! : discord link”
i would be permanently banned from the game within 5 minutes because people will just mass report me
and give me an alt lost ark account and ill prove this to u
That’s a point someone bring here too… If so, I will need to rethink my acts, but there’s not a solid report from AGS that instabans based in players reports are real.
double standards everyone,
For something he doesn’t believe, it has to be proven
For something he suspects, it doesn’t need to be proven
There are tonnes and tonnes of evidence that amazon customer support insta ban and then expect you to appeal
Those topics get hidden from this main page so you cant see them
People STILL get tickets giving them a ban for something they did in new world game when they dont even play new world, fact
Agree… We’re not here as judges to create sentences, just use the tools to report potential crimes. Think about it…
try to do that in your local area too, and let’s see how that will work out for you
falsely reporting a crime is a crime itself
falsely reporting a player for scamming is scamming itself
and since you agree they are innocent until proven guilty
Prove it.
@briathus
Having read all this topic you are sounding angry and not looking at the impact your statement can have on innocent gamers
I bid you a good day and i really really hope nobody decides to report you ingame for something you might be doing that annoys others, you might then have some respect for the consequences of your actions
Few days ago a neighborhood call to police because a man was yellinh with a woman, when police reach there, the “crime” was not a “crime”, the man and the woman was actors learning they speechs… For you, report this “falsy crime” was a crime too? What if a crime was real in the end of discussion?
any evidence of what you are saying are not made up?
beside that,
This was enough for you to actually report it,
however, this is different from your case
You are reporting people based on “nothing”
“You thought” they are “potential scammers”
no sign of whether they actually scamming or not, just because
“you thought” they are going to scam someone.
A proper counterargument would be:
"A few days ago a neighborhood call to the police because the neighbor thought man going to yell at the woman and he thought there was going to be a “crime”. "
Learn the difference
I’m not a carry seller you’re just being toxic. The fact that you even assumed that is part of the problem. Reporting people for something without proof is weak-minded.
Yeah, let’s all learn the difference. I’m going to work. Have a good day.
its no use, like I stated earlier, people who disagree are overwhelmingly greater in number than the people who do, and he still thinks he stands for the majority, wait until he hit you up with
“the tool is there for me to use, so I use it anyway” & “I respect what you say but the majority will not agree with you.” statement
Your whole argument has been “report people without proof because they could be a scammer”. Anyone could be a scammer. The report functionality is not there for your assumptions, it’s there to report actual displayed abuse of ToS.
@Roxx can you please clear this up because false reporting is dangerous territory that plagued New World.
the moment briathus is out, kcbandit joins, should I assume they are the same person. since that’s how it works for them
EDIT:
after this, kcbandit stopped typing immediately, hmm, something shady going on
At least you are self-aware.
Please know that I have zero concerns personally about anything that you say. I can’t emphasize enough how your opinion will never have an impact on me in any way. So please don’t worry about that. My comment about the language used, however you want to parse it, is that it was illogical hyperbole not worthy of a response. It remains as such other than to highlight the absurdity of it.
I have stated my opinion, and I will follow the suggestion of AGS to utilize their system to help stop scammers - which they have repeatedly told us is very common among bussers in NA/EU, going so far as to actively discouraging us from participating in them.
If your interpretation of that is “AGS says it’s okay and won’t ban” then you and I have a very different interpretation of what they actually said. It is not okay, it is a minefield of scammers, and it can be and is abused significantly enough for them to discourage us from doing it.
To that end, I will utilize their system to report suspicious activity which they have warned us about just like I report the suspicious activity of suspected bots. I want legitimate players to enjoy the game and play it however they want to play it. I want scammers and botters to be stopped as much as possible. If you aren’t a scammer or a botter, then I am beyond certain that any false positives will be adequately rectified.
I sympathize with those who worry that their legitimate activities could be seen as suspicious and potentially harmful. Due to the statements made by AGS, if it were me, I wouldn’t advertise in PF or area chat to offer bussing services. I would offer those services to my guild mates or use a tool like Discord.
I fully understand that bussing can be and is used by legitimate players around the world in Lost Ark and other MMOs. But I also understand that AGS has publicly confirmed that bussing currently represents a serious problem for gamers using the western client - much like bots are a problem due to various laws preventing player identification. If you disagree with that, I respect your opinion and encourage you to take your concerns to AGS.
As for the rest of us who are concerned about scamming and bots, we will do what we can to help stop it which includes using the reporting tool they have provided to us. It is merely a report of suspicious activity. It is not a decree of guilt or innocence. We are just asking them to review the situation and make sure everything is legit.
If you disagree and believe it is not suspicious, then don’t report it. We can both do what we believe is the correct thing to do. While we disagree on this issue, that’s okay. We both clearly care about the game and the community - enough to post at length about this topic. We just have a completely different view of what is acceptable behavior and what isn’t, the severity of the problem and how it should be dealt with. I trust AGS to do their best to make us both comfortable with the end result.
I wish you the best. Good luck with Valtan.
again, you are reporting an entire group, wether they are scammer or not, because you “assume” they are.
Now, before I hurt your feeling again, I will have to state, that your logic is basically resolved around “I assume.” which has no value without concrete proof of what you “assume”.
and how do you understand when someone says “it’s okay.” do you read it as “Please report them?”
if you do sympathize, you won’t report every single one of them, your action and your speaking don’t match, you know what we call them, to prevent your feeling from getting hurt once again, I will leave this one out for yourself to figure out.
enlighten me, when did AGS state that legit busing creates a problem for gamers? and how bot problem linked to any carry sellers? what does the law preventing player identification have to do with carry sales for in-game currency?
911 is there not for you to falsely report a crime that “you assume” it’s going to happen, look it up in your local law, falsely reporting a crime is a crime itself. do you take the responsibility of being banned if you falsely report a player?
You are doing no good for the community like you claim you are doing, instead, hurting the legit player instead.
your action getting people falsely banned, and you call it not a degree of guilt. looks like you are the person that would absolutely stab someone if you knew you won’t be charged for it. you lack empathy like you claimed to be.
so why did you reply to this whole page of words if you knew my words are not going to affect you? make no sense, clearly, my word is affecting you. in some way.
harming the experience of legit player experience is your way of caring for the community? or do you care only about yourself? seems like you had no problem reporting everyone in the first place, just because you “assume” they are scamming.
Assuming without any concrete proof is not what you call a different view. It’s called False Accusations.
I wish you luck with valtan too, but leave your character name here or DM me, so I don’t have to deal with you in my game. not even a boss rush run.
This is the definition of what I used to say
Tools are never the problem, people using them are.
The fact that your reporting people just selling carries, a nomal part of this game that is literally done in every lost ark region including kr, jp, ru, and now na and EU. Players like you are the one’s who should be reported and banned for fake reports. Disgusting narrative your spinning