And people called me crazy for investing my founders pack gold into grudge books in march. What’s up now losers!
And what the Hell are doing to take 4 hours to do “everything” in 6 toons?, besides if you “rest” the alts you are just wasting their purpose and the advantage it gives… You are un fact losing over 50% of the benefit, for good measure I have 9 toons, (main 1450 weap +20, 8 alts 1375) it takes 8 minutes both guardians + 8 minutes both chaos + 2 minutes 3 unas (1 x sushire, 2 x feiton) = 18 minutes per toon x 9 toons = 2.5 hours to get 100% benefits.
I got weeks that I dont need to sell gems anymore as my cash Flow is Well over 20k gold a day and so working on my gems to +10, got a couple already.
All that f2p, im at 1800 hours on steam
Yeah, cause the whole game is based around heavy spending. Aside from horizontal ofc.
Gee no wonder why people want a lot of gold and don’t want to spend much 
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I haven’t spend more than 50 to 60 dollars maybe? Super premium ark pass and a couple of skins… 9 toons main 1450 +20 weap and 8 1375 everything 3/3/3/3/1 and legendary gems, legendary barricade books and legendary cursed doll books
Botting and RMT is at an all time high because they keep shoving new raids down our throat with out giving people a way to catch up to those raids. They do this to try to force people into Mari’s shop, but people already know you get 10x the gold from RMT. So by trying to Moby Dick a few whales, they pushing most people into RMT Bot sites.
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Fair enough
Your time is also money, pal
It takes probably around 3 hours. Why? Because I don’t do lopang or the ez leapstone rotation in feiton shushire. I am completing every available unas task even if it gives me some crap rewards. Some of them are quite tedious like spirit jars and android emancipation so I suppose that explains it.
Congratulations on being on a degenerate though but I would have expected a bit more progress from someone who grinds the game this hard. I have played much less than you and my main seems to be at a much better place than yours except for maybe the gems if you have many but then again I don’t sell them because I actually like my alts and I like having that high lvl cooldown gem on doomsday on my igniter and the high lvl demonic gems on my shadowhunter and such. Would not trade them off for better gems for my main lol but that’s just me.
Also, if you were F2P you wouldn’t have 9 toons. Just sayin
Couple of skins and slots does not makes me a whale or rmter…
That’s right it doesn’t but if you bought slots or founders pack you aren’t F2P either lol you technically already spent on the game to gain advantage
if i go to the movies I spend more with all the sutff, parking, food, tickets, etc, for 2 hours of entertainment… if I have spent 50 dollars in lost ark im exagerating and that for 1800 hours of entertainment
“I have spent” - “I’m F2P” lmao pick one and you can only pick one
take it as you want that IS f2p if you divide 50 /1800 the cost / hour does not even pay a glass of FREE water
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If you really value your time like that. It can’t be argued
You said it yourself your gold income is way higher than someone’s who didn’t spend on the game even if it was just for character slots. I wouldn’t consider you to be in the same bracket as F2Pers but on the other hand I don’t really care if that makes you feel better keep bragging about it
#NoMore3DayBans
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I disagree purely on the grounds that whilst looking at groups yesterday at least half of them were bussing groups, and as gear improves that number is only going to go up. Which in turn “leaves people behind” because they want to play the game and not pay 10k gold to not play the game. As it gets worse those same people will feel forced to buy gold, which then heads straight back to RMTs and bots. (Note I said ‘disagree’, I’m not saying “you’re wrong, I’m write”. Just that one point I see an issue with.)
I know bussing is allowed, but it’s also part of the problem. Any gold interaction is going to be part of the problem, but as it becomes increasingly unnecessary the more of a problem it becomes.
Further people are being increasingly “picky” even at lower level content. You don’t need 2x3 to complete Oreha normal, you just need the right stats and a modicum of skill. Again, this pushes players to buy stuff they don’t need.
So frankly the people fuelling the desire for RMTs are the players refusing to play with anyone with less than ideal gear. Which is a mentality passed down from whales and RMTs before them.
So people in general just need to grow up, remember it’s a game and not be elitist jerks. That’ll solve a lot of the RMT problems but unfortunately is about as likely as the botters thinking “what we do is pretty immoral, let’s stop”.
Yes. They might have dropped $100k on Royal Crystals but hit their $1000 a day limit so bought a tiny amount of gold from an RMT to get that next upgrade. Ban them. Permanently. Delete the characters. Close the account. If they want to play again then they have to make a whole new Steam account. It’s a small but annoying point but you want to make it as hard as you can for thieves to steal again. Because they have stolen, they’ve stolen other players play time because they’ve had to sit in queues so the thief can buy cheap gold. We’re at the point that the punishment has to be severe enough to act as a deterrent, and a three day ban is clearly not a deterrent. And yes, AGS and Smilegate might have lost a whale, but better to lose one whale than the game dying because due to a lack of severe punishments to the cheaters, and you shouldn’t have one rule for the rich and another for the poor.
“Bussing is a symptom of people being left behind”
That’s the dumbest comment in this thread so far to be honest. Bussing is not a symptom of people being left behind lol you would pay 2k gold to get an argos bus for your alt for example so you can buy the chest and break even but you get the gear faster than parking at 1370 and doing phase 1 for many weeks to compelte it
Its at an all time high because they announced the releasing of nothing but whale content while majority of playerbase was stuck at 1415 or lower. you either swipe, or you miss out on new content. that simple.
to the knuckleheads saying ‘theres no hurry’, just look at the state of past content now. its nothing but minimum item level alts with no gear, engravings, or gems trying to get free rides through content. theres hardly any serious players left and the ones that are serious have to carry loser leeches until they get so annoyed, that they dont even want to do abyss anymore which leaves no game content left for them to play cept horizontal bullshit
but then… why 99.99% of players won’t play together? Making own parties? One would say it should be enough to make a group or two of normal players and actually leave whales aside, no?