please for the love of God, read better, go read the above thing i said better here. to xeako
My 5 alts were 1340 before the update with correct stats and 2x3 engravings.
Now they are all 1370 with 3x3 engravings with correct stats and a 6th alt (punika powerpass) at 1370 with 3x3 engravings with correct stats.
The engravings/stats/gear are for Oreha/Argos not Guardian. Guardians are shit easy to kill.
It is your loss if you don`t do Guardians. Since i have 6 x 1370 alts now i have a lot of g.leapstones and not enough gold to hone 
This F2P needs to stop. Since i buy AURA and SKINS too, i don`t consider my self a F2P anymore. Skins add benefits to you char too maybe they are P2W ? 
my 12 grudge 11 igniter sorc alt goes brrrrrrrrrr
Leapstones are more expensive than great leapstones on my server, so Iām just doing igrexion instead lol
so you understand better, in order for me to not GRIEF my teammates in yoho, i purposely chose to not do yoho up untill i am 4x3, also for the reason that i want it to be ready for 1445, but you can go 3x3 and i would not say a thing.
The reason this whole thread exists in the first place is because people donāt even have 3x3 for yoho, they go naked expecting to get carried, so in the original post, i am advising people to not queue yoho with their new 1370 alt whether the alt is within the main 6 or outside of it up and untill they have 3x3 at least, thatās why i do only chaos dungeon with the new 1370 only, untill everything is fulfilled.
im not gonna spend 4 weeks and 50-100k gold for an alt
if i want that alt start generating me money im definitely not doing that
also what servers are you guys playing on? iāve yet to see someone naked in my yohos
at worst itās only been class engraving x3 which is enough if you donāt die for a 6-7min clear
Iām fortunate that Iām able to do all my Yohoās by duoing them with my buddy. We tried matchmaking once after the express pass thingie and in that run both randoms had zero engravings so we just gave up on that.
Would you prefer a dead party in yoho with naked people, a 10 mins + run for no reason just to waste more time, OR an 3-4 mins or less run every single day in there?, a literally tell you that i did once 68% dmg and another 71% dmg, and the run lasted 5 mins, so now go tell me where would those naked people be if i hadnāt been there to clear for them?
You people must understand already that people donāt want to waste their time at all, can yoho be done with lower stats and engravings as any other content FOR SURE, but do people like wasting x2 or x3 more time than necessary? absolutely not!, thatās why the whole grudge debate exists, it is not really necessary, but it guarantees, you donāt kiss the floor due to too many mechanics, and that the raid runs smooth and fast, therefore not wasting more time, the end of story.
If you use matchmaking then deal with what you get and suck it up. Guardian Raids are semi-casual content so deal with it I guess.
If thatās an issue for you then either try to make your own party, find some friends or solo it.
Cant wait for the 1415 powerpass as some guys asked for.
Forum will be full of popcorn.
I mean even with 3x3 i carry most of thr grps because ppl dont even use pots ā¦ Am i bothered by it as much as you are? Nah not a bit ā¦ I do it with 5 chars since my main does turtle ā¦
I understand ppl who cant just dont have peons to build characters and etc ā¦ I dont mind helping is why i and few friends do free carries for stuff but different mindsets ā¦
Go make a premade because matchmaking will be like this
1.) Probably
2.) Only Asmongold followers pick up mokoko seeds and want to show it off?
3.) Iām sure thatās exactly what they did
4.) Copying an already done meme is having a good time go for it
5.) No engraving playerā¦no damage either
A fight that normally takes no more than 4-5 mins even with low gear people took over 9 minutes because 2 at ilvl alts that could do damage had to carry the two that couldnāt when there should only be one and that one is usually buffing your damage and healing.
engraving does not determine if a player dying or not. wanna survive the fight? use the pots. with or without engravings doesnt matter.
let me give YOU a word of advice
what i do with my time in game is MY BUSINESS now hop off my D
ā¦ so you feel entitled to waste other peopleās time just because you donāt care about yours? hmmmm interesting.
4x3 for Yoho lol. I just do chaos dungeon, argos and oreha looking for a good stone to build around and then a couple weeks of oreha and argos until I have a full set of accessories with all +3 of my class engraving and main stats. Make a cheap 3x3 build out of that and I feel like alts are plenty ready for Yoho with that. I also make sure to bring pheros tho to contribute a little more.
My yoho altās are 1x3 thanks to epic engraving books, why would i bother spending gold on them? Yoho is going to die no matter if i have 1x3, 4x3 or expertise on all my epic accessories. The whole point of the useless 1370 altās is to make gold.
ya dum beachā¦
you are already wasting time playing a vidya gameā¦
so what ātimeā is being wasted?
NANIDAFAQ?
if itās that much of a hassle you can āsaveā your precious time by soloing the boss which will take the same amount of time in a group ya dum beach
man, if you donāt even play the game, why do you care about whoās time is wasted here or not again?