Oh I just saw he compares gold at 380 now but not when it was 1k+ to a wow economy of a 17 year old game with more players, then he compares mounts and skins that players farmed for years to 2 month old mounts in lost ark, skins from founders packs that are a 1 time thing that were 50-100 euros in a bundle of other items and now suddenly they cost more when u can’t get them anymore shocker. How much is swift spectral tiger and feldrake again?
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This kind of post makes me lose faith in people
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All I got from this post was that WOW pay to win is more swipe friendly because of their current inflation.
Do you prefer someone passing you by spending 100 dollars or thousands? If someone is going to make my progression seem like a joke they better be dropping more than 20 bucks. Especially in a sub based game lol
this bro compare 10 years of economy to 3 month old of economy. you can get $20 for 200k gold because the gears average cost 150k to 300k you have to buy ONE gear for $20 lol. but lost ark AH cost average 20g to 3k gold. so it make sense. idk what you talk about.
I dont know if it was your intention but what you have stated makes wow more p2w than lost ark because its cheaper to “win”.
Did people honestly expect this game to keep soo many players? This is a niche Korean MMO none of which have been that popular in the west. Why 1.4 mil players happened is because of how much it was hyped up. Soo many sponsored streams with drops along with a f2p model means a lot of people will try the game even if they normally dont like these types of games.
Cannot believe you actually made this post. LMAO what a crybaby.
with 819 hours gametime i can clearly say this game is absolutely p2w and more p2w than wow. (i used to be a wow booster since legion and hardcore pve player with tons of CE and also 2.7k old glad pvper) this game is full and absolutely p2w and more than wow. today i just decided to quit from lost ark and i have my own reasons with the game not gonna mention all of them but i dont have anything to do in this game till the content comes. cuz im hardcore pve player and i did everything nothing left and i dont want to kill a doe over and over and over again. almost 2 and half months and only 1 raid. (btw i didnt spend any money on this game except early bronze one) so i just want to say i wanted a fresh air and i think this is enough for me maybe i’ll return when the all legion raids comes.
This is the smart thing to do if you don’t have FOMO. Wait a year, and you can swipe $100 to convert to gold, and then buy mats to boost straight to 1415 easily. Buying royal crystals right now to buy gold is literally means “I have so much money that money does not matter to me”.
It’s realy on AGS to release honing packages like KR so “dolphins” (i.e. people who are happy to spend money, but not a fortune) can buy things on the store.
In which server u playin dude ? 20 Gold to 3k gold :d you must be dreaming. the thing is i am playin gunslinger and my 1 piece of earring is starting with 5k to 7k gold like even i am trying with different variations for example if i want hitmaster grudge or grudge keenblunt or hitmaster keenblunt… i try everything but the min price is starting with 5k- 5.5k and goin on 
also this game is not 3 months old it released in 2k19 or 18 if i am not wrong. also what we experiencing now the devs and everyone knew that this gonna happen again and again. even worse happened in our version of the game. they just want money but gives nothing. and maybe ur server is empty and u can buy ur gear with that price but you cant talk in general like this.
also this game is not 3 months old it released in 2k19 or 18 if i am not wrong.
You’re wrong.
For the first time in a long time I’ve seen non-3rd party RMT be this valuable.
Welcome to inflation. Also note that 264k gold is likely just as easy to make in WoW as 3k gold is in Lost Ark.
You aren’t supposed to buy this. In F2P games if you are planning to spend, you need to be smart about it as it drastically affects the amount you get out of it.
Overpriced as gold was incredibly inflated before and went through a huge deflation process. Skins and Mounts are continued to be priced this way and fall in price each day as they are not in demand.
The gear system in WoW was an still is one of the worst gear progression systems ever made. Getting gear in WoW is worse than the honing system…in most cases getting gear in WoW can be worse than games where upgrades can break your weapon permanently.
Pets in WoW are worthless outside of pokemon minigame.
Both item systems are garbage. And everyone has to deal with both ilvl systems being garbage. Buying BoEs is disingenuous point and insults everyone’s intelligence.
Things being cheaper in WoW just means P2W is easier in WoW. GG.
I think its funny because you haven’t even seen the final forms of the gambling in this game all come together to form a massive casino. You only look at honing when EVERY progression system is heavily RNG based.
This is pretty scummy.
Thanks for the retort.
It doesn’t matter how competent people are if the work environment doesn’t allow them to function properly.
They don’t ignore the player. Sometimes they listen to the players too much and it hurts the game.
Sounds cute on paper but doesn’t work. As much you don’t want it to be a casino, the players WANT it to be even if they say they don’t. The proof is in literally every non-RNG upgrade system. You ask what non-RNG upgrade system? Exactly.
There’s a game called Allods Online that is F2P. They created a server where a small sub could be paid to enjoy the game without any P2W. The F2P server was P2W jammed. Guess which server thrived and which one was a ghost town? The players prefer P2W and gambling. It’s terrible but companies give players what they want, so here it is.
They are.
Lol. Gold was way over-inflated to the point where I was selling mats for 5,000% to 12,000% higher than they were supposed to sell for. Now its over-deflated to the point where most things are selling for less than they are on KR servers where they have WAY more gold, WAY more gold sources and a longer standing server.
They are dealing with bots, why do you think gold is DEFLATED AF on Lost Ark but inflated in WoW. Maybe WoW intentionally lets botting run rampant to inject gold into the game, you ever think of that lmao?
There’s a game called Allods Online that is F2P. They created a server where a small sub could be paid to enjoy the game without any P2W. The F2P server was P2W jammed. Guess which server thrived and which one was a ghost town? The players prefer P2W and gambling. It’s terrible but companies give players what they want, so here it is.
Referred to as ‘Loss Aversion’, the feeling of losing is roughly twice that of winning (Psychologically). People like to gamble, they like getting very lucky and people also get strong emotions towards losing - Not necessarily negative emotions either.
If people are wondering why the game is so addictive, there are countless things in the game that are designed to be addictive and most of it is RNG.
You can’t even do your daily Chaos dungeons without several layers of RNG. Sometimes the floor doesn’t drop loot, sometimes the 2nd portal is gold, sometimes its a red jackpot portal, sometime the boss drops cube tickets, sometimes they drop boss rush…
again i was talk about lost ark release in NA/EU. so we are behind everything and in economy. in my server, 347 gold for 238 royal crystal. it mean we will get 3,130 gold = $20
I’m just saying that all games will have a ‘luck’ mechanic, cause of Loss Aversion people want RNG whether they admit it or not.
This might have already been said, but you can’t compare gold from one game to another, the value is completely different. Gold is used differently and the price is set by the economy based on supply/demand. Gold is used for almost everything in Lost Ark, including honing attempts so the value is super high compared to WoW.
To top it all off, you’re comparing a game that has an economy built for over 15 years vs a game that’s just started (at least in NA/EU). I’m sorry to say it doesn’t matter how large the post is, it has no real merit.
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Can you please understand that Worlds of Draenor was the fifth expansion of World of Warcraft and that it had a very different ecosystem in terms of economy when compared with a two months version of Lost Ark?
It is also not normal to compare the pay to win factor from one game to another since paying to win or paying to progress means to get a certain level of satisfaction that can last for a certain amount of time and that in itself is subjective or at the very least relative.
It does not matter if WoW is cheaper if Lost Ark can give me more dopamine or viceversa.
p.s. i will play WOTLK Classic when it will come out later this year so i am not against the game
yeah this game kinda expensive who made this prices and no regional pricing soon very quickly die …